Lets talk tires.....

[markseven]

onlinetires.com has MAXXIS MA-V1 89V for $77.14 + tax

http://www.onlinetires.com/products/...ma-v1+89v.html

[markseven]

The list ranks the better tires in the class? What do you run rcomps on the street or something?

No sir, I do not, and that is my point. Unless you are looking for R comps or better, bargain basement BFGs, Maxxis, Nexens, Kumhos, etc. will give very similar performance to those on your list, at a better price. The performance benefit to be had with the "best in class" will not be measurable on the street. It may feel like it though.

On track is a different story.

From your list, I would go with the Hankooks.

[MaksV]

The list of candidates you have compiled leads me to believe that you don't need anything more than a cheap set of summers.

The list ranks the better tires in the class? What do you run rcomps on the street or something?

Yay, a troll!

Anyhow -

I run the Star Specs, and couldn't be happier with them. Street grip is great, breakaway is progressive enough, and easily controlled, and they seem to last well for both backroad and autocross use. My only complaint is that I wish they made more noise when they first started sliding, but that's a nitpick.

Just wish they were not so expensive.

[markseven]

Yay, a troll!

A dunlop fanboi How droll.

[hwy84]

The list of candidates you have compiled leads me to believe that you don't need anything more than a cheap set of summers.

Yay, a troll!

Anyhow -

I run the Star Specs, and couldn't be happier with them. Street grip is great, breakaway is progressive enough, and easily controlled, and they seem to last well for both backroad and autocross use. My only complaint is that I wish they made more noise when they first started sliding, but that's a nitpick.

[markseven]

on a stock car, that can be ok. On this car that will not cut it.

The list of candidates you have compiled leads me to believe that you don't need anything more than a cheap set of summers.

[Herr Faust Schinken]

I love my star specs stupid amounts of grip in the dry , and the do great in the wet which is surprising to me , they are a bit loud but you don't really notice it that much, the tread ware is just ok though they don't last that long

[Click]

Anyone have the Toyo Proxes R1R? New on Tirerack and 225/45/16.

I just mounted them on my car today, although mine are 235/40-17. They feel godlike to me, but you must understand that they are my first set of summer tires EVER and I came from 185 section winter tires. Haven't driven them in the wet yet.

I cant find the UTQG rating but that looks likes its probably gonna be sub 150.

They're 140.

[MaksV]

Ya. I went on that. It basically come to be about an 1" taller, the rest of the dimension are the same. I dont spend a lot of time at full lock, but at the same time, I am a big believer of doing things right.

[F34R]

You can also wack it with a hammer or something to dent it in lol. I did that on the drivers side to get it home. Only rubs at full lock fyi

I still highly suggest going with a 45, the 50 is not the correct sizing.

As posted above this is one of my favorite places to check specs and fitment.

http://www.rimsntires.com/specs.jsp

[MaksV]

hmm. Ya the car is fully built and I am not scared of modifying stuff, but cutting apart the body is not on my to do list. I guess i will have to spend the extra cash in the end.

[F34R]

that does look rather meaty. I am surprised your rubbed. I have my fenders pulled pretty damn far (almost like arches now) both front and back. What is a wheel tub?

Fenders are not bad, I am rubbing on the inner body of the car when I turn the wheels. Those fenders in the front are rolled and pulled after I mounted to get more clearance.

See my last picture? follow the tub well down to where the sqwiggle lines are. See the screw tab that mounts the inner mud cover? that is where I am rubbing. Sawzall and a welder fixed that but I am doing it right this time with 235/40/17 (620mm) vs the Rota's: 632mm

[MaksV]

that does look rather meaty. I am surprised your rubbed. I have my fenders pulled pretty damn far (almost like arches now) both front and back. What is a wheel tub?

Also spec on those sways?

[F34R]

I posted sizing/speed specs above^^

Reason they are double the price is: amazing tire vs shitty low entry tire. Up to you completely

This is before I shortened the housings and swapped for valved inserts. The 225/50 rub really REALLY bad in the front. I had to cut the front wheel tub corner just so I could turn my wheels. another reason to go with the 45 ratio. Also they rub on my coil adjuster nut.

That is why a few above mentioned staying in the stock specs. 225/45/16 will keep you in the stock fitment ratios. 50s cause rubbing.

[MaksV]

143 per tire, only 5.00 more than the Star Specs and free shipping from that site(only place I buy)

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/tires/bfgoodrich/size/bySize.do?cs=225&ar=45&rd=16

I would suggest going a 225/45/16 square setup vs the 50 ratio in the rear. You have coilovers and the Rotas have a nice flush et20 fitment. as you can see from my picture I posted above.

I was planning a 50 ratio tire square setup. In your picture were you running -50 at every corner? Do you have a side pic?

So I guess it comes down to cost. I can have the KDW for $572 + mounting vs the V12s for $331+ mounting Thats almost double the price.