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  • permit
    No R3VLimiter
    • Mar 2005
    • 3363

    #1

    Help me fit the proper Kosei! Yay!

    Ok, I did a fairly accurate measurement to find out my AR 16x7 offset, and it turned out to have ~25mm (counting in common error, I'd say they're between 22mm and 27mm. Using this as a comparison, I was able to use 1010tires.com offset calculator to judge how certain Koseis would fit on my car.

    At the moment, the rears have some tire tuck with about 1.5" gap from the strut, and .5" gap from the fender (unrolled, untouched).

    The fronts have no tire tuck--they're about .75" below the line of the fender. There is a knuckle-sized gap between the inside of the wheel and the strut, and about the same .5" gap from the fender--if the car were lowered.

    My choices for wheels are these (all being Kosei K1s):

    15x8 ET12; strut distance would be the same, I would have to roll the fenders ~15mm.

    15x8 ET27; rears would be perfect, fronts would need a 5mm spacer and the fender would have to be flattened.

    16x7.5 ET12; more gap from the strut, all the fenders would have to be rolled ~8mm.

    16x7.5 ET43; I'd run 20mm spacers all around, no rolling needed (I predict).

    16x8.5 ET27; run either a 10 or 15mm spacer all around, extensive amounts of rolling would be needed.

    All these are just predictions for what would happen, I would only find out for sure when I physically have everything in my hands.

    To me, the 16x7.5 ET43 or the 15x8 ET27 (both would get 225s) look like the best choices so far, but I would love to have the 16x8.5s with 245s; I don't know anyone locally who has a fender roller, and if someone does have one, then I'd need to do the rolling sometime next week as I leave for Arizona on the 16th.

    Actually, I could do a staggered setup, not sure if that's the best idea for an e30, but perhaps with my sway bars and engine power, oversteer would be lowered, and it would feel more in control...I dunno, just thinking. So that would be the 16x8.5s out back with no spacer, and flattened fender, and then the 16x7.5 ET43 up front with a 20mm spacer, and no rubbing.

    Anyone have any suggestions or comments?

    Thanks.
  • Axxe
    No R3VLimiter
    • Aug 2004
    • 3355

    #2
    Good like finding 245's in 16" diameter that are remotely close to outer diameter and don't cost more than the car.

    Seriously though, you've got it down pat for spacing and all that.


    Keep it slideways!!

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    • permit
      No R3VLimiter
      • Mar 2005
      • 3363

      #3
      I was going to get the RE750 Potenzas, even though Jordan gave them a bad review. Finding 225/45/16 actually yields less results than the 245s, so 16s in general suck when it comes to tires.

      Tomorrow I confirm my order for 16x7.5 ET43 with the weird/gnarly/crazy BFG tires.

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      • 2002maniac
        R3V Elite
        • Feb 2005
        • 4260

        #4
        I think the new haNKOOK AUTOX TIRE COMES IN 225/45/16

        aw shit, forgive the caps. typing with gloves on

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        • permit
          No R3VLimiter
          • Mar 2005
          • 3363

          #5
          Originally posted by 2002maniac
          I think the new haNKOOK AUTOX TIRE COMES IN 225/45/16

          aw shit, forgive the caps. typing with gloves on
          I do 400 mile drives every three weeks, so a somewhat high treadwear rating is nice, but thanks.

          Oh, for everyone's information, Kosei has a new wheel coming out soon which is why K1s have stopped production. So yeah, maybe wait on those before you buy your next set of wheels. Just a thought.

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          • 2002maniac
            R3V Elite
            • Feb 2005
            • 4260

            #6
            Toyo T1R is available at edgeracing.com in 225/45

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            • permit
              No R3VLimiter
              • Mar 2005
              • 3363

              #7
              Originally posted by 2002maniac
              Toyo T1R is available at edgeracing.com in 225/45
              Very true. Hmmm...

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              • Mystikal
                Moderator
                Wheel Fitment Expert
                • Nov 2003
                • 9602

                #8
                Originally posted by permit
                I do 400 mile drives every three weeks, so a somewhat high treadwear rating is nice, but thanks.
                Food for thought:

                Traction is directly related to treadwear.
                Wider/larger tires cost more.
                The RE750 costs a lot more than the R-S2.

                Conclusion: it would be cheaper to put 225/45/16 R-S2s all around and buy new ones more often. I'd also wager you have MORE traction than a 245/45/16 of lesser agressiveness.

                My vote is 16x7.5" ET42, 20mm spacers, 225 R-S2s.

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                • rwh11385
                  lance_entities
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 18403

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mystikal
                  Food for thought:

                  Traction is directly related to treadwear.
                  Wider/larger tires cost more.
                  The RE750 costs a lot more than the R-S2.

                  Conclusion: it would be cheaper to put 225/45/16 R-S2s all around and buy new ones more often. I'd also wager you have MORE traction than a 245/45/16 of lesser agressiveness.

                  My vote is 16x7.5" ET42, 20mm spacers, 225 R-S2s.
                  yeah, but he is putting down too much power for 225s.... LOL



                  because a 225 falken 512 on a 7in wide wheel wasnt happy tires.

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                  • rwh11385
                    lance_entities
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 18403

                    #10
                    oh yeah, in case my meaning wasn't clear enough, i completely agree with Jay

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                    • Jordan
                      R3V OG
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 12907

                      #11
                      Originally posted by permit
                      I was going to get the RE750 Potenzas, even though Jordan gave them a bad review.
                      Indeed. I hate mine, but hard to beat them for the price (free)

                      They are round, they roll, grip is OK once they are warm, but cold or luke warm sucks. Predictable breakaway and easy to recover though.

                      Treadwear is excellent. I've done numerous 1-2-3 standing spinoffs with little to no notable wear. Rears show no signs of camber related wear after 2500+mi.
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                      • Axxe
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 3355

                        #12
                        So that's the reason for the 1-2-3 spin. If you had sticky tires it would solve your traction issue.


                        Keep it slideways!!

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                        • nando
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 34827

                          #13
                          I liked my RE750s for what they were, but I don't think I will buy them again.
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                          • Mystikal
                            Moderator
                            Wheel Fitment Expert
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 9602

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Axxe
                            So that's the reason for the 1-2-3 spin. If you had sticky tires it would solve your traction issue.
                            Obviously, considering his car has a very similar power to weight ratio as an E36 M3 and the same sized tires.

                            With good tires I'm not sure he could really "break loose" at all in 1st, short gearing or not.

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                            • rwh11385
                              lance_entities
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 18403

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mystikal
                              Obviously, considering his car has a very similar power to weight ratio as an E36 M3 and the same sized tires.

                              With good tires I'm not sure he could really "break loose" at all in 1st, short gearing or not.
                              ridic. he has so much power.... he could break traction in 4th gear!!!!!11

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