3pc 17" Hartge in 4x100 bolt pattern? Do they exist?

[Ray Smoodiver]

Hartge showcar was on 17" 3-piece rims...

[reelizmpro]

Well look at that...I didn't know they made 3pc Hartge's in 4x100. They must have been uber expensive. I thought for sure these were redrilled given the extra spacers and boring over the stamps on the wheels...just didn't look right. I have seen some very good fill and redrills where they install a spacer on the back and flush out the faces so they looked like they were never 5x120.

[e30m3s54turbo]

^^^ first pics that's Trevor old wheels. :)

Yes. The second set are original condition when I bought them new from BMP Designs.

[MC Hammered]

Thanks guys for the pics and info.

[e30lyf]

^^^ first pics that's Trevor old wheels. :)

[e30m3s54turbo]

I have pics of Hartge 4x100 17x7.5. My friend ran the part numbers. They came back as Hartge 4x100 17x7.5 all 4 wheels.




Here is a pic of my old Hartge 4x100 17x7.5 17x8.5 on my buddy's Baur.

[e30lyf]

they are original 4x100 period...

[flyboyx]

i don't think the centers look like fill 'n drill either. there isn't enough room under the cap for 5x120. also, the center hole would be bigger and it doesn't look like it has been altered.

[haggardfab]

they definitely do not look like they've been redrilled, 99% of the time youd see the machining marks atleast on the inside and being the filler rod is a different grade of aluminum then the wheel its self you can usually see the color difference on the wheel mounting face, even if there machined nicely

[Todd Black 88]

Three piece can obviously be change. Could have been rebarreled, and lipped to that size.

[10Toes]

Not sure if I would trust that seller... (vlado1vladimir)

[e30m3s54turbo]

The et is way off on the wheel and size. BMP Designs use to sell Hartge parts in the 80s and 90s. My friend Frank that own the 17" 4x100 has a Hartge wheel catalog with part number. Here is pic out of my BMP Design catalog of the 17" listed.

DSC03772 by m3raul, on Flickr
DSC03773 by m3raul, on Flickr

[jeffnhiscars]

Can you actually hide a fill n drill ?

[MC Hammered]

I asked him for pics of the wheel stampings.

These wheels are:
Front wheels - 8,5 x 17" - ET 12
Rear wheels - 9,5 x 17" - ET 14

I'm assuming the aggressive rear offset is due to that bolt on spacer.

[e30m3s54turbo]

I bought brand new Hartge 3pc 4x100 17x7.5 17x8.5 from BMP Designs in 1996 for $2900. My buddy still has them and a other set. The Hartge 3pc 4x100 17' came in 2 sizes. 17x7.5 or 17x8.5 for staggered size.

Ask him to give you a part number off wheels to verify they are true 4x100 17.