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    Are adapters bad for racing? or reliability? or anything?

    Thats the question.

    You may murder me.

    #2
    Do not use adapters for racing they should only be used on a weekend cruiser and even then are iffy imo. If you wanna run 5 lug do the really 5 lug swap


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      #3
      I have 8830 Labs adaptors on a 318is. I do not trust them at all.
      Seldom drive the car now, will be going back to 4x100.
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        #4
        using 42 draft adapters. I have never had an ounce of fear in failure. I have taken them on numerous canyon runs and drive decently hard. No issues.
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          #5
          canyon runs really have no comparison to track driving.
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            #6
            Originally posted by nando View Post
            canyon runs really have no comparison to track driving.
            True, although we have some pretty crazy tight canyons in Arizona. I was mostly defending them about spirited daily driving.
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              #7
              Originally posted by nando View Post
              canyon runs really have no comparison to track driving.
              Originally posted by kronus
              would be in depending on tip slant and tube size

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                #8
                Originally posted by ThatOneEuroE30 View Post
                Do not use adapters for racing they should only be used on a weekend cruiser and even then are iffy imo. If you wanna run 5 lug do the really 5 lug swap
                Wait I meant spacers. Mine is a 5 lug swapped but the offset is bad. It apparently would rub on the inside.

                So I got hubcentric spacers.

                Get rid of it all?

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                  #9
                  I use spacers and hub rings on one of my sets of wheels which has my track tires on it. It's not preferred, though it works until I decide on and purchase a dedicated set of track wheels.

                  It's been suggested that running spacers will wear out wheel bearings prematurely, though I don't have enough data myself to say for sure.
                  Originally posted by kronus
                  would be in depending on tip slant and tube size

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                    #10
                    running spacers won't wear on the wheel bearings any more than running a low offset wheel will.

                    spacers are just fine provided you're also using studs IMO. I wouldn't use them with bolts.
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by nando View Post
                      canyon runs really have no comparison to track driving.
                      Yeah, tracks have nowhere near as many bumps and pot holes.

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                        #12
                        I think the point is that you shouldn't be pushing your car that hard on a "canyon run". On a track you will be pushing thing to the limit more-times-then-not.

                        Also, ya know, canyons don't usually have run-off areas and safety barriers. So, yea.
                        Originally posted by Matt-B
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                          #13
                          i've had adapters. regardless of any safety issue that may or may not be present (every claims they are unsafe, but no one has any proof), if you have to ask, you obviously don't trust the idea. also, they are a giant pain the in ass.
                          1)you have to undo double the lug nuts to take everything apart.
                          2)just like regular spacers, sometimes you are going to have to fight them to un-stick them from your hubs.
                          3)stupid offsets

                          summary: put the $300 towards a better set of 4x100 wheels.

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                            #14
                            I've used spacers on my 944 race car for years with no issues. Just make sure you are using good long enough studs and steel nuts.
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                              #15
                              So, the thing about adapters is that you generally have fasteners anchored in aluminum. This is, as a rule, sketchy without a real engineering study.

                              Spacers are fine to a point (and there is no difference in attachment security that I can see between studs and bolts). However, they introduce another opportunity to screw up the wheel alignment on the hubs - vibrations are far more likely with spacers than without.

                              Pushing the wheel centerline out does also alter suspension geometry and bearing load.
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