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    16x9 on Bilstein Sport & H&R Sport?

    Anybody running 16x9 on Bilstein Sport & H&R Sport suspension? post pics please.

    #2
    what u got up your sleeve? fill me in!!!

    free bump
    Originally posted by ebelements
    Also, for those who don't know, negative camber is the greatest thing since sliced bread(panera). Even tire wear is for city busses and the elderly.

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      #3
      Originally posted by aworthybrother View Post
      Anybody running 16x9 on Bilstein Sport & H&R Sport suspension? post pics please.
      Like I said in the other thread, it's going to look bad, H&R sports
      are not low enough. Do your research on this, there's alot of info out there.

      This is how 16x9's look with the wrong suspension.

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        #4
        Originally posted by sticksdaman View Post
        what u got up your sleeve? fill me in!!!

        free bump

        Trying to see if I can put some 16x9 on my POS. But it doesnt look like it will fit well with the suspension I have as shown in the above pic.

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          #5
          So, did you replace your suspension? if yes, what kind?

          Originally posted by egk2 View Post
          Like I said in the other thread, it's going to look bad, H&R sports
          are not low enough. Do your research on this, there's alot of info out there.

          This is how 16x9's look with the wrong suspension.

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            #6
            Not my e30, my old one is in my sig, red '89, just trying to show you that if you're not low enough, 16x9's can look pretty silly on an e30.

            Go with some KW coilovers.

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              #7
              Originally posted by egk2 View Post
              Like I said in the other thread, it's going to look bad, H&R sports
              are not low enough. Do your research on this, there's alot of info out there.

              This is how 16x9's look with the wrong suspension.


              BTW, do you know what kind of suspension this red car has?

              The owner of this car says he's running stock shocks with eibach (not sure what model) with 5mm spacer on et30 offset
              Last edited by aworthybrother; 07-20-2010, 09:10 AM.

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                #8
                Don't know what suspension it has but I was trying to give you
                an idea of how 16x9's would look on a non slammed e30.

                That silver car looks like it has staggered wheels, the fronts are most likely et30 with
                the 5mm spacers, rears are probably et15

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                  #9
                  Aworthybrother, please do NOT listen to egk2 on this topic (sorry egk2). That red car is not lowered at all. I have 16x8 on my car without any lowering whatsoever, and that's the height I'm at right now. I'm going to be doing the Billstein sport & H&R Sport combo here soon as well, which effectively lowers the car 1.6" or so, which will leave it just above the tire with good looks and without the hastle of a slammed car. As far as height goes, you'd be fine. I think egk2 just likes the slammed look that needs tucking. That's not ideal nor practical in my book.

                  You'll definitely get a bit of 'plump' from the tires though, as they'll be pretty wide under the E30 chassis. Some guys like that look, some dont.

                  I'll be changing up my rims to 17x7.5 soon but still...
                  1991 BMW E30 318i sedan
                  2005 Kawasaki 636cc ZX6-R

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Spec View Post
                    Aworthybrother, please do NOT listen to egk2 on this topic (sorry egk2). That red car is not lowered at all. I have 16x8 on my car without any lowering whatsoever, and that's the height I'm at right now. I'm going to be doing the Billstein sport & H&R Sport combo here soon as well, which effectively lowers the car 1.6" or so, which will leave it just above the tire with good looks and without the hastle of a slammed car. As far as height goes, you'd be fine. I think egk2 just likes the slammed look that needs tucking. That's not ideal nor practical in my book.

                    You'll definitely get a bit of 'plump' from the tires though, as they'll be pretty wide under the E30 chassis. Some guys like that look, some dont.

                    I'll be changing up my rims to 17x7.5 soon but still...
                    The OP wants to run 16x9's which makes it obligatory to run stretched tires which are significantly shorter than a stock profile tire. Coupling H&R sport springs and bilstein sport dampers with short/stretched tires will leave you with a huge gap in the front which aesthetically looks like dog shit.

                    The fact that he is asking for pics of what this will look like says that he is worried about how it will look.

                    You mention you are running 16x8's but what size tire? Most likely a 225/45/16 which is not nearly as short as the OP would have to run with 16x9's which is a 215/40/16. For your wheels/tires, H&R sports will be fine and fill out the wheels wells nicely but with what the OP wants, not a chance.

                    You're giving bad information to this guy. He'll go out and buy some 16x9's, throw them on and hate the way his car sits, seen it many times before including personal experience.

                    My opinion, if you want to go with the euro look, go all the way and do it right. This means, the right suspension(height) and the right wheels.

                    I don't like the tucked look btw, my old e30 didn't tuck it's wheels.

                    Did you ever run 16x9's?

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                      #11
                      No, I never ran 16x9s on an E30, so I don't speak from personal experience. I simply see the picture you posted in favor of lowering the car to race drop, and I know it's stock height, because mine is the same as it. Even if a slightly wider tier were stretched over the rim, it wouldn't negate the fact that 1.6" would be cleared from the fender via his sport suspension. The tire will probably not be meeting the fender, there will probably be some sort of gap, but that gap will not be very large at all, and it's still going to ride like a sport suspension rides. Going from a sports drop to a race drop compromises the ride quality.

                      I know I'm trying to at least maintain a level of civility with my ride as I've done race drops in the past and it's just not always for a car that's driven on the street (I'd rather err on a too soft then too hard spring rate). And I think the Sport drop would already be sufficient enough wrapped around those tires/wheels. No need to drop it an even further .6" and spend another couple hundred.
                      1991 BMW E30 318i sedan
                      2005 Kawasaki 636cc ZX6-R

                      PNWRiders.com

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                        #12
                        You don't have to run super-stretched tires on 16x9...

                        This is my late model on Bilstein/H&R sports, stock wheels but you get an idea of how "low" you get. No springpads installed...

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                          #13
                          you sure those are H&R sports? looks pretty low... maybe they were meant for a 318i?
                          IG: @Baye30

                          FRONT VALENCE IS ZENDER!!! STOP FILLING MY PM BOX PPL!!!

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Dirtsquirt View Post
                            You don't have to run super-stretched tires on 16x9...

                            This is my late model on Bilstein/H&R sports, stock wheels but you get an idea of how "low" you get. No springpads installed...

                            Who said super stretched? I said 215/40-45/16 which is a moderate stretch, next size up would be 225/45/16 which is too much tire for a lowered e30 on 16x9's, tires would catch a fender no doubt.

                            That doesn't look like H&R sports and that pic doesn't show how a short side wall will look with a moderate drop. Also, pretty sure the guy already is running H&R sports and is looking to buy new wheels.

                            Here's a comparison that will give the OP a better idea, my first setup with Eibach/Tokico on 16x9's and then after installing KW/Bilstein/drop hats. Eibachs IICRC even have a lower drop than H&R sports, so the gap will be even more pronounced with the H&R sports.

                            Before with Eibachs:


                            After with KW's:

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                              #15
                              How much drop do you have on the first & second pic?

                              Before with Eibachs:


                              After with KW's:

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