Yokohama AVS ES100 tires...

[DanGillan]

i've already narrowed my slection down to these tires, but I have a couple questions first...

1) what speed rating should I get, is there any advantage of the Z rated instead of the W? i obviously wont be going 149+mph very often, so it doesnt seem woth the extra 200 it will cost (50 extra per tire).

2) where is the best place to get them? tire rack was my first impression, but does anyone know a better place?

3) before im 100% set on these tires, how do they compare to the yoko parada spec-2? anyone have any experience with both? the avs's have a tread wear of 280, the parada's have 300? which one will last me longer with my *small* camber issue? also the parada got better handling and dry traction ratings, but worse wet traction rating (by only a little bit). im just not seeing much difference in the tires. please tell me what you know


thanks in advance guys!

[C ///M]

I have experience with both. But only used the parada spec 2s for a couple months when i was borrowing a friend's 17s before mine came.

My opinion, both tires get loud rather quickly. The parada's scared me in the rain. Not as sturdy as the es100s and awful going through large puddles. They were, however, monsters on the dry, however, my es100s are 20mm wider and even better in the dry and much better in the wet.

Better tire for the money? probably es100, but damn, i have less than 5k miles on them and they are a little too loud.

[cramer]

www.discounttiredirect.com has Yoko.

In my experience, all Yokohama's are loud (r componds not included)

I like the ES100's and in every case outperform the Paradas.
Paradas were designed to have the "tuner" look, ES100's were designed to perform.

If you want another alternative, the Toyo T1-S is a better tire in wet and dry plus is very quiet. The down side is more money and wear a little faster.

As for the Z or W rating, look at your average or even your top speed you've driven. W rating will be fine ;)

[LikeCDoos]

i love my es100's. In the dry they rock...very sticky.

[DanGillan]

www.discounttiredirect.com has Yoko.

that site is horrible, the same avs es100's are 7 bucks more expensive each, the site is damn slow too, you should check out www.tirerack.com
thanks for the tips though!!

[e9nine]

www.discounttiredirect.com has Yoko.

that site is horrible, the same avs es100's are 7 bucks more expensive each, the site is damn slow too, you should check out www.tirerack.com
thanks for the tips though!!

If you have a local discount tire direct dealer, you can have them price match tire rack. It depends on numerous variables and which competitors are in their locale but you can get good luck with price haggling this way, this was what I did when I got my Kumho ASX's ;)

If you don't have a local installer, this will obviously not apply to you

[hamann318is]

I'm debating between getting some ES100s right now, or just saving up for a new 15" euro weave with ES100s. ;)

[Ryan Stewart]

I will try and find out where I bought mine. Mine were cheaper than that. The site was reallly plain but it worked better than that and I think my rears were like $95 in 245/40R16.

Yokohama doesnt use the RWZ rating they use a W## rating and they change with each size on the ES100s but all are rated for over 140 so tis a non-issue. I would give you specs and prices but my car is apart on a lift and I am down at bimmer8604s house so I have access to nothing.

And I also say they rock.

[Kruzen]

Q 99 MPH 160km/h
S 112 MPH 180km/h
T 118 MPH 190km/h
U 124 MPH 200km/h
H 130 MPH 210km/h
V 149 MPH 240km/h
Z 149 MPH 240km/h +
W 168 MPH 270km/h
Y 186 MPH

[DanGillan]

really? you sure? that doesnt seem to make sense.... but i believe you... i think, hm...
anyone else confirm that?

also, im ordering them in an hour or so, does anyone have any quick suggestions for other tires before I order?

thanks guys!

[Digitalwave]

really? you sure? that doesnt seem to make sense.... but i believe you... i think, hm...
anyone else confirm that?

also, im ordering them in an hour or so, does anyone have any quick suggestions for other tires before I order?

thanks guys!

Potenza RE750's have been getting great reviews, but they cost a bit more than the Yoko's.

The AVS ES100 is a nice overall cheap tire, but there are certainly better out there.

[DanGillan]

sounds good, ill check them out

[DanGillan]

anybody know anything about the Dunlop sport FM901? they are the tires (wel.... cords) I have now, they seem pretty good, anyone have any experience?

[DanGillan]

so I just spoke with a guy at tirerack (oscar) and i told him to give me the rundown on these 4 tires....

1)bridgestone re750
2)dunlop sport sp FM901
3)yoko avs es100
3)yoko parada spec 2


he said... the dunlops are shit, by far the worst tire i listed, the bridegstones are the best, followed by the yoko parada spec2, followed by the avs es100, then the dunlop dead last. he said the parada spec2 handled better in the rain because the es100's rain treads were too small or some shit like that. He said the parada spec 2 would take corners better, and handle better wet, but they are about the same dry, and the paradas would last longer. but he said that the bridgestones are far superior to any of these, they are not even in the same league, they out perform on every level, and will last much longer. the question is, do I want to spend the extra 200 for the bridgstones? and should I just believe this guy because he works at tire rack....

[bimmerboy12]

my es100's are Z rated, GET THE Z rated... its not about how fast you go, its about how stiff the sidewall is. You will be more pleased with the performance of a Z rated than a W, V, or H. I'm speaking from personal experience...