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  • Nick_S
    No R3VLimiter
    • Apr 2011
    • 3656

    #1

    Wandering steering

    Hey guys, I recently sold my E34T to my gf since we just moved across the country. Just before hand I had a friend replace the upper control arms and inner and outer tie rods. The the control were super worn and I had noticed a loseness in the steering, particularly on corners in that mid corner i could feel what I can only describe as the wheels turning with the steering wheel in the same place. On long right hand corners, about mid corner it would feel like something loosened and I had to turn the wheel a bit more. It was never overly alarming and figured it was from the worn out bushings and would be fine once fixed.

    After picking it up from the shop and starting the drive out west, I noticed that not only was the problem more pronounced but occasionally on straight roads I would feel it wander and pull to the side. =

    Also about 3/4 of the way across the left front caliper started to seize up, thinking it could be related I rebuilt it with new seals but the steering problem persists. Any ideas or input is greatly appreciated.

    Nick
    91 318is M50 swapped
    05 Honda Pilot

    24V swap thread
    http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=302524
  • jalopi
    Banned
    • Aug 2010
    • 2370

    #2
    Maybe a stupid question, but was it ever aligned after all that work was done?

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    • IRON-E
      I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
      • Dec 2007
      • 16548

      #3
      What CABS do you have?
      Have you changed out the steering coupler?
      Are your wheels balanced?
      Are you running spacers or hub rings?
      Was the car ever in a front end collision?
      And like mentioned above, was there ever any alignment done?
      @IRON-E30 aka Edwin:D

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      • slammin.e28
        שמע ישראל
        • May 2010
        • 12054

        #4
        These cars are terribly sensitive up front.

        When I went from stock 15" wheels/tires to 225/17s my wandering got much worse. Entire front end had been replaced 6 months prior to my getting the car.

        Got it aligned, no difference.

        Replace CABS with Moosehead bushings. Helped, a lot.

        Finally, last resort, tightened the steering box up. It's better, but I think the real fix will be to get another steering box.

        But, as said above....did the shop align the car? Or at least recommend you get it aligned if they don't have the capability? That'd be the first step.
        1974.5 Jensen Healey : 2003 330i/5

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        • Nick_S
          No R3VLimiter
          • Apr 2011
          • 3656

          #5
          Originally posted by IRON-E
          What CABS do you have?
          Have you changed out the steering coupler?
          Are your wheels balanced?
          Are you running spacers or hub rings?
          Was the car ever in a front end collision?
          And like mentioned above, was there ever any alignment done?
          I got OE upper arms with poly bushing
          Negative
          Yes they were redone at the same time as the control arms and tie rods
          Yes, e39 style 5's
          Nope
          Yes, done at the same time.


          The work was all done by my best friend at his shop and he is an ASE certified master tech so I don't distrust his work.
          I'm fearing its just the steering box going bad which sucks because they seem quite expensive.
          91 318is M50 swapped
          05 Honda Pilot

          24V swap thread
          http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=302524

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          • IRON-E
            I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
            • Dec 2007
            • 16548

            #6
            Weird
            @IRON-E30 aka Edwin:D

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            • Dj Buttchug
              R3V OG
              • Jun 2010
              • 7633

              #7
              steering box

              Turbo M42 Build Thread :Here
              Ig:ryno_pzk
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              • slammin.e28
                שמע ישראל
                • May 2010
                • 12054

                #8
                Adjust it.

                Tighten it up, but make sure the wheel still snaps back to center on it's own.
                1974.5 Jensen Healey : 2003 330i/5

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                • Nick_S
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 3656

                  #9
                  Originally posted by slammin.e28
                  Adjust it.

                  Tighten it up, but make sure the wheel still snaps back to center on it's own.
                  I'll give it a shot. How easy is it to tighten up? I guess I can just break out my bentley manual and figure it out.
                  91 318is M50 swapped
                  05 Honda Pilot

                  24V swap thread
                  http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=302524

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                  • tomwas
                    Grease Monkey
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 387

                    #10
                    the 92 e34 i just got does the same thing, was used to the nice rack & pinion on my 95 e36, how do you accomplish tightening/adjusting the box on the 5er...........
                    Now on my 26th BMW...

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                    • slammin.e28
                      שמע ישראל
                      • May 2010
                      • 12054

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nick_S
                      I'll give it a shot. How easy is it to tighten up? I guess I can just break out my bentley manual and figure it out.
                      Originally posted by tomwas
                      the 92 e34 i just got does the same thing, was used to the nice rack & pinion on my 95 e36, how do you accomplish tightening/adjusting the box on the 5er...........
                      BMW E34 5 series, Tuning, repairs, troubleshooting.
                      1974.5 Jensen Healey : 2003 330i/5

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                      • AndrewBird
                        The Mad Scientist
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 11892

                        #12
                        So glad my e34 has a steering rack...

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                        • slammin.e28
                          שמע ישראל
                          • May 2010
                          • 12054

                          #13
                          Originally posted by NitroRustlerDriver
                          So glad my e34 has a steering rack...
                          STAHP PLS.

                          Does yours have the built in booster rear seat too?
                          1974.5 Jensen Healey : 2003 330i/5

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                          • AndrewBird
                            The Mad Scientist
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 11892

                            #14
                            No, sadly it doesn't. Lots of other nifty Euro stuff though.

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                            • deutschman
                              R3V Elite
                              • May 2008
                              • 5958

                              #15
                              Worn out steering idler arm? Passenger under side of the car.
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                              "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."

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