My new Euro-Ellip Quad HID setup ~

[The Driver]

Wait, I've got a question... if your fun car is a 400hp FD, why are you trying to upgrade the lighting on your automatic eta?

Here's why, READY!....






I LIKE THE CAR, IT'S LOOKS & GET THIS! I DRIVE IT @ (You will never guess...) NIGHT TOO!


Basically that's like asking why do I even have the bmw? I don't own cars I don't enjoy, just a policy of mine and I'll stick to it.




No offense but the stock lighting on the E30 sucks hard balls, I could have lit candles in the sealed beams an it would have been brighter.

[cabin]

Just FWIW, and I know you are against bi-xenon for some reason, but I retrofitted an FX35 setup into my US ellips for around $500, which includes buying new ellipsoids. And putting bi-xenons on a car with separate highs makes perfect sense, HID bulbs are not intended to be flashed or turned on for short periods of time, it greatly reduces their life, with bi-xenons, the shield in the projector drops down instead of having a separate lamp illuminate. But that's my opinion.

I will also add that the retrofit was a pain in the ass, lots of cutting and I ended up using fiberglass to finish everything off. End result is awesome though, much better than throwing some random HID bulbs into a housing designed 20 years ago for halogen bulbs. Also more likely than not, the reflectors in the E30 ellipsoids are going to be corroded and greatly diminish your light output. Just something to think about.

[e30evolution]

hid kit will be just fine for you. i wouldnt bother with the highs, like was said earlier it is not good to use them ftp. visit hidplanet.com and check out how some people retrofit stuff, and they have a great for sale section as well.
i retrofitted audi s4 projectors in to my euro lights back in 04 and kind of wish i waited for bi-xenon to get more affordable. i will build another set soon and maybe put these projectors into my fog lights

[The Driver]

Just FWIW, and I know you are against bi-xenon for some reason, but I retrofitted an FX35 setup into my US ellips for around $500, which includes buying new ellipsoids. And putting bi-xenons on a car with separate highs makes perfect sense, HID bulbs are not intended to be flashed or turned on for short periods of time, it greatly reduces their life, with bi-xenons, the shield in the projector drops down instead of having a separate lamp illuminate. But that's my opinion.

I will also add that the retrofit was a pain in the ass, lots of cutting and I ended up using fiberglass to finish everything off. End result is awesome though, much better than throwing some random HID bulbs into a housing designed 20 years ago for halogen bulbs. Also more likely than not, the reflectors in the E30 ellipsoids are going to be corroded and greatly diminish your light output. Just something to think about.

It's not that I have something against it, It's simply not cost efficient. I enjoy the car don't get me wrong but I'm not about to slave and spend 2x the money on my DD. You also have to realize this isn't a track nor a show car, it's my daily. I just want a nice lighting setup that's easy to install.

As far as the life part of the HID's on the Ls430 kit. I'm not really worried I got them free and they have just been sitting for a while, so it's no skin off my back :)

If you can do Bi-xenon more power to you but also what do you drive and is it your only car? I mean I drive an Auto 86 eta lol. Also keep in mind I have to keep my cost ratio's in effect between the cars. The Bmw to FD is about 1/10.

As wh33lhop was saying why do you want this for the eta when I have the FD? Something like this is nothing compared to what goes into the FD in TIME and money.

Just for kicks... I dropped about 500 in total on the E30 so far in mod's an suspension work (Intake an all the fun basics). That was just to get it fun and little more spunk an look.

The FD 500$ would be gone in a second, my hood an hatch got hit with lovely NY hail and now I have tons of tiny dings on them. So now I'm replacing them with carbon from seibon so it does happen again. The oem CF hood is 450 an the oem cf hatch is 620 (right there over 1000), that's not including having them painted back over but I'm getting the whole car repainted due to wear an tear plus tracking. Then on top of that since my motor wasn't installed correctly (thanks to an idiot at the shop messing with my car), The motor has to be pulled out an send it back an have it reassembled (Thank god for warranties but still shipping to an from is 425$). Next step is getting rid of the old problematic twin-turbo system an going single turbo with a nice GT35R BB setup which I'm getting used with all the hardware for around 2200$. These are just the basics of the FD, now you see why it might seem like alot with these but in comparison it really is nothing but essentials for the E30.

[Wh33lhop]

I LIKE THE CAR, IT'S LOOKS & GET THIS! I DRIVE IT @ (You will never guess...) NIGHT TOO!

Well, you stated your reason for wanting good lighting was you liked to drive fast and unbothered so you do it late at night, my question is why would you use the 121hp 4 speed torque converted eta instead of the FD? Between the two, the eta is a "get to work in lazy mode" car, would you disagree?

Basically that's like asking why do I even have the bmw? I don't own cars I don't enjoy, just a policy of mine and I'll stick to it.

Not really. Just wondering why you're using an eta to drive quick at night. And don't tell me gas mileage.

No offense but the stock lighting on the E30 sucks hard balls, I could have lit candles in the sealed beams an it would have been brighter.

No offense taken, I have been frustrated with my lighting since day 1, which is why I ordered a set of smilies (which are actually pretty good, especially for a car in the 80s).

[Wh33lhop]

All lenses for projectors are elliptical shape... The radius might not be as wide due to how small the projector is but it still works right?

There's a little more to projector design than the lens.

But they are suitable, Bottom line... Are they a significant improvement over stock? YES




I think your missing the point, I have no intention of putting HUGE and Costly LS430 projectors in my E30 nor name it jigsaw. I'm trying to make a nice easy plug an play with a little extra power for the highs.

I thought you had a set of LS430 projectors. Mah bad.

My TLs could light up an 8 lane highway ~ TL's aren't plug an play

Lazy ass.

Bixenon? Lmao. First off they cost about half or maybe what I paid for the car. I haven't even done Bixenons in the FD an there 1100 for that. My guess would be atleast 700+ for the E30. Also why would you put Bixenons in a car that has separate highs? (It makes no sense, cost an purpose wise)

Unless you want to use your $50 ballasts to flash people... I'm sure those will hold up great. And if you say it makes no sense you clearly have not ridden in a car with bixenon projectors.

If you read, I'm putting the LS430 HID's in the highs.

I don't know why you keep on saying LS430 HIDs, the only thing really unique to the car's HIDs is the projector. Otherwise it's just HIDs.

Yep, But not worth it to me, the work, time and money. Let's not forget about the ever so awesome moisture leaks too...

Never had a problem with mine, and I completed the whole thing in a weekend.

You can get TL projectors for under $300 shipped, you can get FX projectors for close to $200 shipped, both of those are bixenon. You already have OEM HIDs (with a D2S bulb) and you could have HID high beams without putting an HID kit into your high beam. Here's how you do it, it's incredibly complicated.

Connect the HIDs to the low beam and do the jumper mod if you haven't already (you might want to use a relay to do this)
Connect the bixenon solenoid's power wire to the high beam signal

So when you push your signal/high beam stalk forward, your halogen high beams will turn on and the cutoff shield of your projectors will move, flooding a perfect beam pattern of HID goodness everywhere. Unfortunately this will still flick the HIDs on and off if your lights are off and you're flashing someone, but if your low beams are already on then you won't have to worry about harm to your ballasts by flashing someone or continuously activating and deactivating the high beams, plus you will have a kickass low beam and you won't have to buy another HID kit for the high beams.

[The Driver]

Well, you stated your reason for wanting good lighting was you liked to drive fast and unbothered so you do it late at night, my question is why would you use the 121hp 4 speed torque converted eta instead of the FD? Between the two, the eta is a "get to work in lazy mode" car, would you disagree?

I do agree it is a lazy car but it's a handler, you don't need to be powerfull to go quickly through turns esp in a light car such as the e30 chassis.

I when I talked about late night driving fast an unbothered I mean't the FD.

However it also does pertain to the E30 in the sense I drive home sometimes at 4am going through montauk and the hamptons back roads. Trust me when I say this... YOU NEED HID's out there, hamptons = tons of stupid drunk girls party'n wandering the streets (from ammagenset all the way through the 4 towns exiting bridgehampton) and in montauk (Esp montauk highway/s) there's tons of deer late night. If any of you have ever taken OLD Montauk highway you know how scary an whindey it is with elevation changes as high as 35-50 ft in a couple of seconds and turns sharper then you can find almost anywhere else on L.I.

Not really. Just wondering why you're using an eta to drive quick at night. And don't tell me gas mileage.

Lmao ~ You don't want to know what gas mpg is like on a boost rotor esp running a rich a map with 850 primary an 1300 secondary injectors. (On boost @ 12 psi for a 1/4-1/2 mile run, I'd run through almost a quarter tank... I have a 20 gal tank)

I drive quick (Not fast) in all my cars, I just don't like going slow (It also depends on your definition of "Driving"). I'm not saying doing 150 (That would be fast) everywhere but it's nice to feel/enjoy the ride rather then sit at 55 with a boring tone just bumping along. In the summer I drive upwards of 150+ miles a day an mostly highway except leaving montauk and traveling through the hamptons...

[The Driver]

Unless you want to use your $50 ballasts to flash people... I'm sure those will hold up great. And if you say it makes no sense you clearly have not ridden in a car with bixenon projectors.

I have an I know how great Bi-xenons are but in this case it doesn't make sense, it's just NOT worth the time nor the money.

I don't know why you keep on saying LS430 HIDs, the only thing really unique to the car's HIDs is the projector. Otherwise it's just HIDs.

Then so be it, they are just HID's but they are oem an that's what matters to me.

Never had a problem with mine, and I completed the whole thing in a weekend.

You can get TL projectors for under $300 shipped, you can get FX projectors for close to $200 shipped, both of those are bixenon. You already have OEM HIDs (with a D2S bulb) and you could have HID high beams without putting an HID kit into your high beam. Here's how you do it, it's incredibly complicated.

Connect the HIDs to the low beam and do the jumper mod if you haven't already (you might want to use a relay to do this)
Connect the bixenon solenoid's power wire to the high beam signal

So when you push your signal/high beam stalk forward, your halogen high beams will turn on and the cutoff shield of your projectors will move, flooding a perfect beam pattern of HID goodness everywhere. Unfortunately this will still flick the HIDs on and off if your lights are off and you're flashing someone, but if your low beams are already on then you won't have to worry about harm to your ballasts by flashing someone or continuously activating and deactivating the high beams, plus you will have a kickass low beam and you won't have to buy another HID kit for the high beams.

85$ HID 5000k 55w plug an play kit + 2 min install > 300$ Projectors + Hours of Fab work, chance of headaches if they leak, pain in the ass splicing and hoping everything holds up...

Thanks for the advice though, seriously. I'm just tired of rigging even if it is a quality job. Why can't they make a Bi-xenon bolt in like this? This is what I was going to purchase before I did the swap on the FD.

http://www.stylefeeder.com/i/s6mdt9wg/Xgl-Headlamps-Universal-Chromed-6054-7-Quot-X6-Quot-Rectangular-Bi-Xenon-Headlamp-Upgrade-Kit-Set

[bimmerboy12]

I'm sure it's an improvement over stock, but relative to this:





I guarantee it's rubbish. ;)

Wh33lhop- I agree that is titties. I want on my E30.