Not much, you can bend the core support with a hammer. Ask me how I know. You can also bend the core support FORWARDS on a parking curb or something... again... Ask me how I know.
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The frame rails are absolutely stronger than the core support, but I think the ejnight piece will do more than enough deflecting for any of the crap that I should see, but I'd much rather have a bent/destroyed core support that can be replaced at home or a friend's than bent frame rails, where I'd at least have to take it to a shop to get it pulled back into spec.
FWIW, a good-sized ditch can really bend up frame rails if you encounter one near highway speeds. I'd just be worried about a lot more than my oil pan if I screwed up big enough to destroy an ejnight skidplate, but , y'know, man. That's just, like, my opinion.'89 325i track sloot
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Originally posted by whiltebeitel View PostThe frame rails are absolutely stronger than the core support, but I think the ejnight piece will do more than enough deflecting for any of the crap that I should see, but I'd much rather have a bent/destroyed core support that can be replaced at home or a friend's than bent frame rails, where I'd at least have to take it to a shop to get it pulled back into spec.
FWIW, a good-sized ditch can really bend up frame rails if you encounter one near highway speeds. I'd just be worried about a lot more than my oil pan if I screwed up big enough to destroy an ejnight skidplate, but , y'know, man. That's just, like, my opinion.I Timothy 2:1-2
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^ yeah but again, if you were to hit a ditch who cares if your frame rails are bent, your whole car is gonna be fubar'd. I'll most likely be going with peerless' design to try it out as i have already tried the ejnight plate.
edit: how many people with peerless' plate have even complained about a bent frame rail, i think it would take a lot of force to be able to do that, and even then no matter which plate you'd have if you hit anything large enough to do some serious damage you will def have more to worry about.
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since we lift E30s' by the front subframe, aka frame rails.. i don;t see how bottoming out the skidplate would bend the frame worst than hoisting the car up.. again, all a question of circumstance.. me, i'm in montreal, and anyone whos' being to montreal knows when you hit a "pothole" the whole rim can get swallowed honestly to the 1/4 mark.. as in, 3-4 inch drops as a usual.. when i get the car back, i'll put a cam on the front of my car, and do the trip home from school in it, and you'll understand, ours roads have being compared to 1/3 world countries. anyways, i've being very patient driving my car around waitting for a fresh, and i mean fresh stretch of pavement to rip down, and i've still managed to toast three pans in under six months.. going up driveways, etc.. I want to either find an aftermarket pan, or weld some kind of humvee type cage around the pan..
p.s. namsayin' what front end is that? - baller
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Originally posted by E30QC View Postsince we lift E30s' by the front subframe, aka frame rails.. i don;t see how bottoming out the skidplate would bend the frame worst than hoisting the car up.. again, all a question of circumstance.. me, i'm in montreal, and anyone whos' being to montreal knows when you hit a "pothole" the whole rim can get swallowed honestly to the 1/4 mark.. as in, 3-4 inch drops as a usual.. when i get the car back, i'll put a cam on the front of my car, and do the trip home from school in it, and you'll understand, ours roads have being compared to 1/3 world countries. anyways, i've being very patient driving my car around waitting for a fresh, and i mean fresh stretch of pavement to rip down, and i've still managed to toast three pans in under six months.. going up driveways, etc.. I want to either find an aftermarket pan, or weld some kind of humvee type cage around the pan..
p.s. namsayin' what front end is that? - ballerI Timothy 2:1-2
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Namsayin et al. maybe I didn't get my point across the best. I just think the peerless piece, while good, is just overkill. If something like the ejnight plate is too weak, you've got bigger problems than just an oil pan.
E30QC, The whole problem is the large force in a short period of time. If you're going at 2 MPH and touch the oil pan, you probably won't do anything but scratch it. Try the same thing at 40 MPH and you lose the bottom of the pan.'89 325i track sloot
'01 530i daily
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as i said, circumstance,.. the prblem here is you'd be bolting at 50., then see a canyon of a pothole, bring down the speed, but still make a decent bound wise hit, i thiunk the ej clearance is low, so does it bend in then bend back out, or does it crush cinder blocks?>
also, is peerless on here? i know hes' on e30tech..,
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Originally posted by markseven View Postpeerless- more robust
- very good quality
- can be used as a jack point
I have ejnights and have yet to even put a scratch on it (I'm on H&R Race). I probably don't need a skid plate, however, I don't want to find out the hardway that I do...1987 BMW 325is | Frankenmotor S50 | Supersprint Replica Headers | K&N Intake | Gutted Stock Midpipe | Zimmermann Rotors | Stainless Brake Lines | Porterfield Racing Pads
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