Mini Cooper S vs 318is: Which should I get?

[tjts1]

we need to remember that thread starter is planning on getting a 2nd gen. mini...which makes all of this neglagable...

The OP never specified but it sounds like he is looking for a first gen Chrysler engined mini.

I can get JCW Mini for $11,000, but it is less reliable (I think) than an e30.

I would like to see a second gen mini for $11k

[vlad]

But seriously, the MCS looks waaay too feminine. Maybe you appreciate the songs of Depeche Mode, though.

never knew depeche mode's songs were considered female material ?

If you have money to spend, get the Mini, really fun car and the older ones were better than the second generation.

I think second generation car was 10 times better, they took all the feedback from the customers and redesigned the car in a better way

[zhp43867]

The OP never specified but it sounds like he is looking for a first gen Chrysler engined mini.

I would like to see a second gen mini for $11k

It's a first gen, not second. I think I might just get a normal MCS with lower miles in the color I actually like though and just add a pulley instead.

never knew depeche mode's songs were considered female material ?

I think second generation car was 10 times better, they took all the feedback from the customers and redesigned the car in a better way

I think that there is a following for either 50/50. I prefer the turbo engine of the second generation, however everything else including the interior I like better on the first generation.

[kishg]

never knew depeche mode's songs were considered female material ?

not female.. gay ;)

[zhp43867]

I'm also 6'6".. I fit in both cars, but I wanted something where I could be a bit more comfortable than either of those choices. I also wanted to mess around with diesel... I like the mk4 but it's not a driver's car at heart, but it does ok with a few mods.
'04 chipped/lowered/big braked TDI

Good to know! I was looking at getting a GTI also but I think I might find that a little porky compared to the e30/ cooper s and not refreshing enough coming from a background of all modern, heavyish bmw 5 series and 3 series. Too similar I guess is my concern.

[Julien]

Good to know! I was looking at getting a GTI also but I think I might find that a little porky compared to the e30/ cooper s and not refreshing enough coming from a background of all modern, heavyish bmw 5 series and 3 series. Too similar I guess is my concern.

I agree, I wouldn't have an mk4 if it wasn't for my interest in diesels and running bio.

wait 2 years and get:

[freeski27]

It's a first gen, not second.

Stand corrected there, but still see no factual argument against the Chrysler engine. Once again, could be wrong; however, seems like a very solid engine...

PS - ^^ The abath is sick, they did that on top gear. Here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYffiTRxmOs

[Rob]

Julien, was your time in this thread worth it? ha!

[ACMF74]

For 13k you can get a nice Mini or a very custom e30.

I'd opt for a highly e30 IMO.....

[Julien]

Julien, was your time in this thread worth it? ha!

eh.. boredom, it happens