I'll admit it...

[bimmer_E30]

one of my dream cars fo sho!

[z31maniac]

Don't those have vacuum operate windows/locks/everything?

The heritage of them is cool, but nothing else.

[SamE30e]

There was one on a local forum for 1000$. Someone picked it up real quick!

[bimmer_E30]

There was one on a local forum for 1000$. Someone picked it up real quick!

wtf thats an insane deal

[gearheadE30]

Don't those have vacuum operate windows/locks/everything?

The heritage of them is cool, but nothing else.

Yeah, EVERYTHING is vacuum operated. It's a pain in the ass when lines get old and cracked.

[structured]

There was one on a local forum for 1000$. Someone picked it up real quick!

There was one going for around $1200 locally to me a while back. Keep in mind that it wasn't an "evolution" model as the one in the link apparently is.


I would literally kill a puppy to own an evo II

[Stephen]

Yeah, EVERYTHING is vacuum operated. It's a pain in the ass when lines get old and cracked.

Remember when this happened to my grandparents old w123. screwed up pretty much everything

[tjts1]

Yeah, EVERYTHING is vacuum operated. It's a pain in the ass when lines get old and cracked.

No, just the doors locks. Its very reliable. Even works when battery is dead.

Remember when this happened to my grandparents old w123. screwed up pretty much everything

W123 is a very different animal. That's where EVERYTHING is vacuum operated.

[02stu]

have you guys ever driven one? They're great cars but if your over 6 feet they suck. If you removed the knee bolster and changed out the steering wheel they might not be that bad. Or you could sit far back from the steering wheel.

[z31maniac]

But if the battery is dead, the motor doesn't start, so the vacuum operated components don't work, correct?

[Stephen]

No, just the doors locks. Its very reliable. Even works when battery is dead.

W123 is a very different animal. That's where EVERYTHING is vacuum operated.

I know its a different car, im just saying, it sucked

[tjts1]

But if the battery is dead, the motor doesn't start, so the vacuum operated components don't work, correct?

It stores vacuum in a tank inside the passenger side fender. I was able to lock/unlock my doors every day for 2 weeks with the battery disconected while replacing the headgasket and megasqurting my 8 valve 190e. The extra vacuum storage capacity can also be used by the brake booster long after the engine has been shut off.

The vacuum operated power door locks are hardly a reason to dislike the car. CIS (Kjet) electromechanical fuel injection system and the non rack and pinion steering are it's biggest faults. Replacing the Kjet with MS on the 16V can net 40hp with no other mechanical modifications. The 16v used the same dogleg manual transmission as the E30 M3.

[structured]

have you guys ever driven one? They're great cars but if your over 6 feet they suck. If you removed the knee bolster and changed out the steering wheel they might not be that bad. Or you could sit far back from the steering wheel.

True. I was shocked when I drove my friend's car. Although, my first car was a W123 and I never had a problem. I'm 6'-6".

[ck_taft325is]

I had a '73 450 SEL. 6.3 V8. I loved that car. I still have a shell 420 SEL with the 4.5 sitting at my buddies house. Great motor in it but the body is nearly rusted through.

The vacuum on that car was a total pain to fix, but when it worked, it worked well. I had to fix a few lines to the vacuum operated sliders to control the heat (similar to e30's) and they where all original. Broken after, what? 30+ years? Not too shabby in my book...

[mikeedler]

i would rather have an M3 or for that matter a cossi Sierra. The benz was my least favorite out of the bunch- but still alright in its grandpa ways.