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  • Saul325is
    E30 Modder
    • Dec 2003
    • 819

    #31
    Originally posted by grapedrink
    Don't be fooled by fake CF is the advise I am giveing to everyone.
    Wohoo! Thanks man, thanks for the advice, I appreciate it. :up:
    Saul
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    • jgentile
      Wrencher
      • May 2004
      • 254

      #32
      Originally posted by grapedrink
      Don't be fooled by fake CF is the advise I am giveing to everyone.
      dude stop hating and let saul do his work, if you dont want them, or having anything good to say, dont post

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      • Digitalwave
        is a poseur
        • Oct 2003
        • 6281

        #33
        Originally posted by grapedrink
        Don't be fooled by fake CF is the advise I am giveing to everyone.
        Go eat a bag of dicks is my advise to you.

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        • Charlie
          kid tested, administrator approved
          • Oct 2003
          • 6686

          #34
          Originally posted by grapedrink
          Originally posted by Eric
          Originally posted by grapedrink
          Who are you haveign it done by? Unless it is by EBS Productions or Lola its going to be some pretty shitty Carbon Fiber work done. Not worth the money at all. :roll:

          :weak: gayest post ever


















          If I still rocked an E30 I'd be in for a set. I've wanted a carbon center cosole for a long time too :shock:
          How is that gay? Obiously you don't know much about CF and how the "real" stuff is made. Lola, EBS, and Tubi are the onlys ones right now that can make true carbon fiber pieces. Of course there is F1 and Indy but then you are talking multi million and it is still the same process. Do you do a dry or wet lay-up?
          There's a pretty big difference between building structural CF pieces and cosmetic ones, as what Saul is looking to do here.

          Lola doesn't seem to be very good at the structural CF game either, go ask the Fields and intersport.

          -Charlie
          Swing wild, brake later, don't apologize.
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          • JPbmw
            E30 Addict
            • Nov 2003
            • 466

            #35
            do you have any more info on that EBS company? my side skirts were made by them and i've never seen any one else with them
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            • Stu Mc
              R3V Elite
              • Oct 2003
              • 4083

              #36
              Originally posted by Digitalwave
              Originally posted by grapedrink
              Don't be fooled by fake CF is the advise I am giveing to everyone.
              Go eat a bag of dicks is my advise to you.
              tell em tj

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              • Eric
                R3V Elite
                • Feb 2004
                • 5138

                #37
                Originally posted by grapedrink

                Well you are still wrong on all acounts.
                Explain how I'm wrong on any of those accounts

                That is great that the military is that way. It’s funny because the Military leases jobs out to others.
                You just proved my point. My friend works for a company that makes, let me quote myself here "military grade shit." for a dumb’d down version of what I said he works for a company that makes the carbon fiber airplane called the predator, it is an unmanned surveillance plane that the military purchases (i.e. they are contracted by the military) and is used primarily in the Air Force

                They just don't make one type of product or stick to the automotive industry.
                This is an incomplete sentence.

                I am glad you have had experience in the field.
                Thank you

                How do you lay/ make a part?
                I've done a FAA approve field repair on the service door of a Boeing 767 wing. The damaged area was 3 part carbon graphite, with Kevlar honey comb, and 3 more layers of carbon graphite. I don't feel like typing a book about how to do that repair, if you really want to know I'll give you my phone number and you can call me and I'll explain it. But in a basic idea, the damaged area was cut away, the carbon was sanded at the appropriate depth radius, new pieces of honeycomb were installed, then the pre-preg was layed up, and the part was vacuum bagged with a temperature control. The Heat was stepped up for a calculated time/temperature rate.

                Did the parts that your friend make or the ones that you have brake, crack, split and shoot CF strands? If so then it is "FAKE"
                I have not watched my friend make any parts so I cannot say exactly what he methods he uses, but I'm pretty sure that the military would not contract with a company that makes fake parts.

                To answer your question, anything can break, crack, split, or shoot whatever if given enough stress loads. Did you see the Ferrari F1 car get is CF nose torn off at the Monterey historic races this year? I certainly don't think that Ferrari makes "FAKE" CF but maybe they do when living up to your standards.

                If you are not familiar with what crash I’m talking about here are some pictures






                here is a picture of my CF hood made by (by your definition) a “FAKE” company called VIS this is what it looks like after traveling 120ft down a mountain side and hitting one of 4 trees on its way down


                Now I don't claim to be any type of engineering expert, but it does seam to me that the hood did not shoot CF, or explode like some people say that CF does on impact. It is obvious that there is damage to the hood, but it is intact. The resin (I believe it's a gel coat in this case) has cracked, but the individual strands of carbon have not shot out anywhere. But this is probably a "FAKE" product so that is why it shows damage from impacting with a tree
                [/quote]

                cliff notes vol 2: there are no other companies that make or take CF parts to where they should be made.[/quote]

                This sentence is also grammatically incorrect so it's a bit difficult to understand but I think I can speak engrish enough to get what you are saying.

                To make that type of comment is pretty bold. in order to definitely say that there are "no other companies" means that you would have to surveyed all said companies available and determine that they do not make correct parts. With your type of demographic I hardly believe this is possible, so you are basically talking out of your ass when making this type of statement.
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                • boom-monkey
                  E30 Enthusiast
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 1104

                  #38
                  Wow, Eric, way to back yourself up. :up:

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                  • Saul325is
                    E30 Modder
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 819

                    #39
                    Originally posted by boom-monkey
                    Wow, Eric, way to back yourself up. :up:
                    Well after comming home from work, I see we have somewhat altered this heated conversation, and I appreciate all the support (digitalwave, jer, eric etc.). This is definetly not a weeklong project (brake ducts at least). I am predicting a 3-5 months for the brake ducts, and about a couple of months or so for the CF gauge console. I know it'll take a while but I dont have all seven days of the week to work on this project, since my main focus is the Supermileage Competition which makes this a side job on my spare time. The CF gauge console will be easier than the brake ducts because I will buy sheets of pre-fab CF from US Composites, and just make incisions for the gauge pod. Sounds like a simple process but takes months after smoothing out the servicies and making a rubber based border(for exact fit). I'll keep you updated weekly on whats going on.

                    Thanks,
                    Saul
                    Saul
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                    • Jand3rson
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 37587

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Saul325is
                      The CF gauge console will be easier than the brake ducts because I will buy sheets of pre-fab CF from US Composites, and just make incisions for the gauge pod. Sounds like a simple process but takes months after smoothing out the servicies and making a rubber based border(for exact fit). I'll keep you updated weekly on whats going on.

                      Thanks,
                      Saul
                      Please do, as I intend to buy one when they are ready. ANY kind of idea on what they will cost?

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                      • Digitalwave
                        is a poseur
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 6281

                        #41
                        Bravo, Eric.

                        RISING EDGE

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                        • Saul325is
                          E30 Modder
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 819

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Eurospeed88
                          Originally posted by Saul325is
                          The CF gauge console will be easier than the brake ducts because I will buy sheets of pre-fab CF from US Composites, and just make incisions for the gauge pod. Sounds like a simple process but takes months after smoothing out the servicies and making a rubber based border(for exact fit). I'll keep you updated weekly on whats going on.

                          Thanks,
                          Saul
                          Please do, as I intend to buy one when they are ready. ANY kind of idea on what they will cost?
                          50-75 dollars. The higher the cost the better the quality (more layers of CF), you get what you pay for, you know? But its not like this will be a structural piece therefore adding more layers wouldnt be a neccessity. I'll see if I can get a sample pic of what it will look like.

                          -Saul
                          Saul
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                          • MR 325
                            Moderator
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 37827

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Eurospeed88
                            Originally posted by Saul325is
                            The CF gauge console will be easier than the brake ducts because I will buy sheets of pre-fab CF from US Composites, and just make incisions for the gauge pod. Sounds like a simple process but takes months after smoothing out the servicies and making a rubber based border(for exact fit). I'll keep you updated weekly on whats going on.

                            Thanks,
                            Saul
                            Please do, as I intend to buy one when they are ready. ANY kind of idea on what they will cost?
                            Ditto to this Saul, but you already knew that.
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                            • grapedrink
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 1514

                              #44
                              Eric I will answer the questions/ respond to your post later on this weekend. I want to get some pics of some stuff to show you. It would be best if we start another thread to learn and inform other people about CF.

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                              Most of them here are, too.

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                              • robert325is
                                E30 Enthusiast
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 1171

                                #45
                                :wgaf: honestly ^^

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