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    BB Gun; Pellet gun; Paintball Gun? - 9mm?

    Well it finally happened.

    Last night (Sunday) I returned home at about 6:20 PM and it was just getting dark. I was out riding my street bike and the E30vert was in my driveway where I always park it. ( I live on a busy street in San Jose Ca with alot of cars and some foot traffic on both sides of the street. There is also a park kinda kitty corner from my house.

    I put my bike away in the garage and then go inside. I talk to my G friend and she says she just sideswiped a pole with the rental car that she got as her Honda Element was vandalized last Thurs. Someone broke the rear window.

    _ I have cut the plastic rear window out of the e30 some time ago as it cracked and flapped around when I drove the car._ I park with the cars rear to the street where the open rear window area is.

    So I walk out with her not 5 minutes since I came in from my ride and there in the back of my E30vert is a fire that has been lit by someone who threw - cotton balls (go figure?) rolled up paper towels, and a pizza flyer to light the whole shabang. At first I just thought the canvas top was steaming from being warm and the night air being colder. Then as I got closer I saw the items on fire sitting there on my rear leather seats and the pizza flyer on the rear vinyl deck lid /cover. I did a Fred Flintstone past my girlfriend as I ran and got my garden hose - opened the side door and doused the rear interior to put it out.

    My blood was pumping and I saw nobody in the area who may have started it. So I took all the stuff out of the back of the rear seat and the only thing that started to really burn was the red lever on one of the rear seatbelt fasteners that fold into the center of the rear seat.

    The upper deck lid for the convertable top did get a bit torched on the passenger side.

    We call the cops and report it and they fill out a report for attempted arson - which is a FELONY!. They show up and take the report. I vacuum and clean the rear interior of the vehicle and try and get it looking as good as I can under the circumstances.

    The cop asks if I have enemies or my girlfriend has enemies. I tell them that the neighbors on one side of us smoke a ton of pot and there are people in and out of the house all the time. They are most lilkely dealing drugs out of the place. (pot)...

    So they got to the house and the neighbors are convieniently not home. I suspect them, but when my girlfriend went down 2 houses past thiers and informed them that there was someone in the area trying to commit arson the guy said he saw some skateboarder punks in the area.

    So I have no idea who did it or why.
    I have an alarm on the vehicle that I park next too that is also in the driveway ,but that does me no good with the E30.

    So all last night I could not sleep and kept going out to check and see if someone came back to mess with my vehicle and set it on fire. Finally after getting up so many times I just got a bath towel and soaked it with water then placed it over the rear seats so that it would be much less likely to allow fire to propagate.

    So now I have installed a camera that has a full view of all the vehicles in the driveway and there is a street light that illuminates the area. So at night I will have video survalience going. However, an alarm or a camera will not stop them from throwing burning objects into the vehicle!

    I asked the cop what I could do if I caught someone and he told me that I could use just enough force to detain the person. If I used more then I would be at fault and risk procecution/jail.

    So what the heck? I chase the person down and wrestle them to the ground , then they fight or pull a weapon and I get cracked in the head-stabbed -shot. No thanks. I am now considering either using a BB gun, Pellet Gun, Paintball gun with frozen paint balls , or going for the full Monty and getting a good handgun - laser sighting, etc..

    I have a new convertable top that I will be installing - upping my insurance to full coverage and I need piece of mind as well.

    Cops says its a possession and not worth loosing life and limb over. Im out for blood and want payback on whoever the son of a bitch is who did this to my vehicle and my G Friends...

    Which woudl you go with and why? Other thoughts are always welcomed.

    #2
    I have no suggestions, but after reading all of that, I would just like to say:

    Damn.
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      #3
      Right off the bat, I'm going to tell you to not do anything stupid. What you've got now with the camera set-up is one of the best things you can do, catch the asshole in the act, and try and get him identified that way. People very often fuck situations like this up by doing stupid things like finding ways to injure or assault vandals, and this only makes things worse for you.

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        #4
        It's only worse if they catch you. I doubt a skateboard punk who set a car on fire would press charges for getting his ass beat.

        Some people deserve to have their ass kicked.
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          #5
          Originally posted by rwdrift
          It's only worse if they catch you. I doubt a skateboard punk who set a car on fire would press charges for getting his ass beat.
          No, but you can bet your ass that his parents would.

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            #6
            Yeah I'd kick his ass.

            Rabid guard dogs and a clearly posted "No tresspassing" sign is my weapon of choice.

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              #7
              Brick Tamland: I love... gun.

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                #8
                that really sucks, sorry to hear.

                But getting a gun just so you can pull it out on the punk who messed with your car is the most retarded thing I've heard all year.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by royalflush313
                  that really sucks, sorry to hear.

                  But getting a gun just so you can pull it out on the punk who messed with your car is the most retarded thing I've heard all year.
                  Well ya see if I get a pellet gun or BB gun I wont just be pulling it out for effect. I will be using it and repeatedly. With a full fledged pistol that would be more of an attention getter. I have no intention of shooting someone fatally over a possesion like a vehicle. I have the smarts to not go that route so anyone who advised me against that - NO NEED.
                  I do want to make it udnerstood that FIRE is not something that is to be toyed with when it comes to a persons vehicle. If we had not caught it when we did it could have caught the soft top and from there become a ragin inferno that spread to other vehciles (mine) and also the house. Who knows - explosion , etc... It was just total luck on our parts.

                  I do find it hard to believe that the neighbors direclty next to us would be so stupid as to do something like that. With fire they put us and them at risk cause fire does not ask who, what , or where - its an equal opportunity destroyer. : )

                  I think that paintballs would be hard and hurt , but not be fatal , BB;s and pellets may be more towards injury. Dont know? Just know that now I get to sleep with one eye open.

                  :(

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                    #10
                    MOVE.... that's your best bet. Chances are this isn't going to be the last time stupid shit happens to you and yours, and it's completely not your fault. Also, i wouldn't shoot ANYTHING at ANYONE. you live in an area that has crime, drugs, ect. people who are criminals and sell drugs have guns, and some of them get their rocks off from using weapons. Put in the camera, get a dog, and move as soon as you can.... no one should have to deal with these problems with their propoerty.... hope it all works out
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                      #11
                      Damn... sorry to hear about that.

                      But just recently, I've been thinking the same thing - how police would view retaliation. In the last week, we've had some psycho in a car throwing rocks at oncoming traffic. I think he has hit 18 vehicles so far, causing a few accidents and putting one dude in hospital with life threatening injuries. We're talking a 5" diameter rock going through windscreens at 120km/h - wtf is wrong with some people???

                      In the news reports, the friends of the fella in hospital basically said that if the police don't find the guy or if he doesn't turn himself in, they would hunt him down and fuck him up. Given the amount of public interest in the whole thing, it just got me wondering if the police would prosecute them or not.

                      Bring back public lynchings I say. You do a crime, you forfeit your rights to be protected by the same laws you chose to ignore.

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                        #12
                        I vote for not getting a handgun. Maybe a BB gun. Sometimes emotions can take over and lead to stupid actions. You don't want to make any mistakes with bullets.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Eurospeed88
                          Originally posted by rwdrift
                          It's only worse if they catch you. I doubt a skateboard punk who set a car on fire would press charges for getting his ass beat.
                          No, but you can bet your ass that his parents would.
                          Tell his parents what they have done before hand. Not only did you kick their ass..... now their parents will kick their ass again. I doubt some kid will walk up to his parents and admit that he got beat up for setting a car on fire.
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                          Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
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                            #14
                            Theres a BB gun brand out there called Gammo. Theyve got a pretty nice semi auto handgun out. I think its got like a 12 round magazine, and its C02 powered. For a cheap $60, you could give him a pretty good message, and not break the skin.

                            Fuck what everyone else says. Take the shit into your own hands, chances are yuo'll just get your insurance check and no justice will be done. Be smart though.

                            One time I had a kid who was doing donuts in my yard every friday night, in his turboed Ford Focus. So I made spike strips out of plywood with about 100 nails punched through it. I fliiped it over, put it in my lawn, and waited. Dumbass showed up, and proceeded to go to business as usual. I watched, he popped all 4 tires, and as he was leaving, he got a cynder block dropped off the top of my 2 story garage right ontop of his roof. Fucker never came back.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by bmwannabe
                              Take the shit into your own hands, chances are yuo'll just get your insurance check and no justice will be done. Be smart though.
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