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Thats all good for him that he has it sold to BAV AUTO, but it still doesn't make it a great product. Its a decent product but far from a true skid plate.
Its more like a brush guard or aggregate plate. The problem is it has 2 fatal flaws,
1) It bolts to the core support edge, which is almost always bent and you can bend it with your bare hands. So how do you suspect that this can take any kind of real impact load. In addition, the entire front core support weights in at 3.5lbs. Not much there to support anything but a radiator.
2) Their is no support bar in front of the oil pan, therefore it has no impact support. Under a hard impact the plate will simply flex upwards and smack the oil pan, thus breaking it anyways. This in addition to the weak edge of the core support also bending upwards.
3) The design is further flawed in that the oil pan is offset from the center of the car, the skid plate is centered on the car, and to cover the oil pan, it has yet another unsupported kickout.
While I congratulate Mr Knight for his success in using his workplace as a place to produce, package, and ship the skidplate, they are made by his employer, and if it had not been for his employer, he would have no skid plates sell.
Have any of you seen any pictures of his plates that have seen any kind of significant abuse? (Other then some tumble weed scratches) I have not seen any pictures of his plates used and abused.
Can you jack up your E30 from the front of the car by the skid plate? No, of course not it will flex and shatter the oil pan, because it has NO support.
What actually happens when you hit something more then a tumble weed?
Since NYC street are soo sooo smooth and my car wanted to give me a birthday gift.. I cracked my oil pan yet again..haha yea, i broke it threw the damn skid plate, i need to get another one and the one you sold me im going to plate itwhat type of skid plate? pics?raceskid plate
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I hit a railroad steel rail on an old back road going about 45 that was unmarked, hit the plate first, and then bounced up. No damage or bending of the rad core or plate.
Anything built on these cars now is an afterthought, and will have its flaws. But for 150, it saves me and the average weekend/daily driver from having to replace a pan due to an unseen road change or obstacle etc.
They aren't built to be an engine bumper buddy for shit sake.
Your arguement is pointless and futile peerless.sigpic
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Originally posted by peerless View PostThats all good for him that he has it sold to BAV AUTO, but it still doesn't make it a great product. Its a decent product but far from a true skid plate.
Its more like a brush guard or aggregate plate. The problem is it has 2 fatal flaws,
1) It bolts to the core support edge, which is almost always bent and you can bend it with your bare hands. So how do you suspect that this can take any kind of real impact load. In addition, the entire front core support weights in at 3.5lbs. Not much there to support anything but a radiator.
2) Their is no support bar in front of the oil pan, therefore it has no impact support. Under a hard impact the plate will simply flex upwards and smack the oil pan, thus breaking it anyways. This in addition to the weak edge of the core support also bending upwards.
3) The design is further flawed in that the oil pan is offset from the center of the car, the skid plate is centered on the car, and to cover the oil pan, it has yet another unsupported kickout.
While I congratulate Mr Knight for his success in using his workplace as a place to produce, package, and ship the skidplate, they are made by his employer, and if it had not been for his employer, he would have no skid plates sell.
Have any of you seen any pictures of his plates that have seen any kind of significant abuse? (Other then some tumble weed scratches) I have not seen any pictures of his plates used and abused.
Can you jack up your E30 from the front of the car by the skid plate? No, of course not it will flex and shatter the oil pan, because it has NO support.
What actually happens when you hit something more then a tumble weed?
I see what you are trying to do, but you are coming across as hostile.
If you want to compare your skid plates to others, there are better ways of doing it then insulting and pointing out faults in your competitors products.
I would recommend a write-up of actual skid-plate tests, post it on your website, and post it on the forums. In your own thread.
This way you're advertising your stuff, and not coming across as a dick.
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Originally posted by Brian D View PostThat seems pretty tacky, Robert. Advertise your product, take your shots, but this doesn't seem like an appropriate thread for it.
Perfect example of what any of you retailers always want to avoid.
Never bash a competitor! It makes you look bad.
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Kinda a dick move by peerless - I hate to say it (you seem like a very well informed and helpful guy on e30tech)
Most of the forces of a skid plate impact are front to rear. I have no intentions of jacking my car up by a skid plate. Am I missing something here?Originally posted by Matt-Bhey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?
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To all that have my plate and have shown support, I thank you. Yes I have a great job. We have the capability to make these skid plates. The owner is a car guy him self. I will keep making them for the community. I will also make other parts as need. I like to do it. I'm working with a member right now. There are several parts out there that need improvement. I will continue to support are members as you have shown me much love since I towed home my first E30 years ago.Custom Made Skid Plates For Sale.
http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=111469
http://raceskids.com/
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Originally posted by peerless View PostThats all good for him that he has it sold to BAV AUTO, but it still doesn't make it a great product. Its a decent product but far from a true skid plate.
Its more like a brush guard or aggregate plate. The problem is it has 2 fatal flaws,
1) It bolts to the core support edge, which is almost always bent and you can bend it with your bare hands. So how do you suspect that this can take any kind of real impact load. In addition, the entire front core support weights in at 3.5lbs. Not much there to support anything but a radiator.
2) Their is no support bar in front of the oil pan, therefore it has no impact support. Under a hard impact the plate will simply flex upwards and smack the oil pan, thus breaking it anyways. This in addition to the weak edge of the core support also bending upwards.
3) The design is further flawed in that the oil pan is offset from the center of the car, the skid plate is centered on the car, and to cover the oil pan, it has yet another unsupported kickout.
While I congratulate Mr Knight for his success in using his workplace as a place to produce, package, and ship the skidplate, they are made by his employer, and if it had not been for his employer, he would have no skid plates sell.
Have any of you seen any pictures of his plates that have seen any kind of significant abuse? (Other then some tumble weed scratches) I have not seen any pictures of his plates used and abused.
Can you jack up your E30 from the front of the car by the skid plate? No, of course not it will flex and shatter the oil pan, because it has NO support.
What actually happens when you hit something more then a tumble weed?
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Congrats!
Not only does bavauto carry them, but so does Harrison Motorsports.
Someone's moving up in the world!
I need to get my hands on one before the summer.
Originally posted by Jandersonyou can have the keys to my hunk of 20+ year old West German steel when you pry them from my cold dead fingers.
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Originally posted by peerless View PostThats all good for him that he has it sold to BAV AUTO, but it still doesn't make it a great product. Its a decent product but far from a true skid plate.
Its more like a brush guard or aggregate plate. The problem is it has 2 fatal flaws,
1) It bolts to the core support edge, which is almost always bent and you can bend it with your bare hands. So how do you suspect that this can take any kind of real impact load. In addition, the entire front core support weights in at 3.5lbs. Not much there to support anything but a radiator.
2) Their is no support bar in front of the oil pan, therefore it has no impact support. Under a hard impact the plate will simply flex upwards and smack the oil pan, thus breaking it anyways. This in addition to the weak edge of the core support also bending upwards.
3) The design is further flawed in that the oil pan is offset from the center of the car, the skid plate is centered on the car, and to cover the oil pan, it has yet another unsupported kickout.
While I congratulate Mr Knight for his success in using his workplace as a place to produce, package, and ship the skidplate, they are made by his employer, and if it had not been for his employer, he would have no skid plates sell.
Have any of you seen any pictures of his plates that have seen any kind of significant abuse? (Other then some tumble weed scratches) I have not seen any pictures of his plates used and abused.
Can you jack up your E30 from the front of the car by the skid plate? No, of course not it will flex and shatter the oil pan, because it has NO support.
What actually happens when you hit something more then a tumble weed?
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Originally posted by toointoxicated62 View PostIn its defence i hit something the size of a cement block thats made of steel.. Fucking streets of ny -_-
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