Auto vs 5spd. Which is worth more

[u3b3rg33k]

Autos:
for American sissies
Manuals:
for everyone else


Are you a sissy?

[carbeater]

who would most likely spend a bunch of money on an auto medal bumper vert--- a sissy

[u3b3rg33k]

I had almost gotten used to my slushbox e30. It was at least predictable in it's shifting patterns. modern slushboxes take far too many factors into consideration (torque, rpm, speed, throttle position, engine temp, weather?) to be predictable.

With the 4hp22, I could floor it (without depressing the kickdown switch), to 4k, let up just a bit and it'd shift to the next gear, and then floor it again. New stuff has an electronic kickdown switch which can't be felt in the pedal. FTL.

Some modern crap (looking at you, dodge) have throttle pedals that are so light and fluffy, you can't help but depress it slightly further when you go over bumps. And when you do floor it, it drops to the lowest possible gear, completely ignoring the fact that your 3.8L pushrod v6 minivan doesn't have any torque at 5,000 rpm.

Try this in a dodge. Put it in L, and floor it. It'll leave L, and go to 2,3, and finally 4, once you hit the uppermost shift point. the 4hp22 will stay in 1 when you put it there, like it's supposed to.

The only somewhat redeeming attribute that has been applied to modern slushboxes are the "manu-matic" modes, call them what you will. At least you can use low end torque if you shift manually (insofar as the slushboxes infinite wisdom will allow, of course).

The G260 does what I tell it, when I tell it, and when it doesn't, it's my own damn fault.

[Jaxx_]

automatics are for trucks and volvos ;-)

watch it... ;) my volvo a good deal quicker than my E30. It's auto -- DD though, so that's why.

My E30 is to make sure I don't waste money on something FWD. :P

I think that most people looking for an E30 will want a manual, because as a old used car, no one will really want an automatic. Most people looking for an E30 will want them because they're an E30.

people looking for e30s = enthusiasts.

[getouth]

who's idea was it to make auto's? they should all be scrapped for material to make Borbet 16x9's.:)

[carbeater]

so far its about 11 for manual, 3 for auto and 3 say don't bother swapping it.

[e34john]

If you were to sell it later the person who would be looking for a little BMW convertible like Lisa Turtle will probably be looking for an automatic. She did crash Mr. Belding's wife's Miata.

[ak-]

in newer cars, manual cost more than auto even though they have the same everything. should be the same thing for older cars

Wtf? It's the other way around..

[e30rapidic]

watch it... ;) my volvo a good deal quicker than my E30. It's auto -- DD though, so that's why.

my DD is a truck and my mom drives a volvo. Preempting the flame. hehe

I'd rock a T5 in a heartbeat!

[Jaxx_]

my DD is a truck and my mom drives a volvo. Preempting the flame. hehe

I'd rock a T5 in a heartbeat!

If you see me around town or at an NCEuro meet -- I'm the red S70 with the yellow headlights and the volvospeed stickers on the side. T5 FTW. :)



I am also interested to hear that manuals are more expensive these days? wat

[Aptyp]

when i was looking for an auto for gf, they were more expensive and rarer in e30 models.

[bimmer_E30]

is this fucking question for reals?

[u3b3rg33k]

Ask US automakers. They seem to think so.

[carbeater]

? Is for real. The swap is easy and I already have all the parts so I'm up in the air about it

[xLegendOZWest]

go 5 speed. and since you already have it half apart...... 24v swap... just sayin.