m30 megasquirt???

[ky325es]

thinking about running it on my m30 once i do the swap on my e30
got some questions
dont really know much about it
how much is it? is it a plug and play
what all can i do with it thinking about turbocharing the engine after a couple months

[Wh33lhop]

http://www.diyautotune.com/diypnp/

[george graves]

First I want you to think of something that is "plug and play".

Now think of the exact opposite.

That's mega squirt. It's good for what it is - and it's about $3-4 hundred IIRC.

[ky325es]

wat about miller performance m30 kit

[gearheadE30]

Those are two completely different things. The MAF kit is just that: a MAF and a chip. Megasquirt is a full standalone setup that is impressively adaptable, especially for the price, but requires a lot of custom work.

[nando]

First I want you to think of something that is "plug and play".

Now think of the exact opposite.

uhm, click on the above link?

That's mega squirt. It's good for what it is - and it's about $3-4 hundred IIRC.

this shows quite a bit of ignorance..

[george graves]

Oh, I forgot they recently started selling "plug and play" units. Are there many people running them?



Sorry - I guess there is a $240 unit?

I know plenty of people that hate MS. Think it's a nightmare. But it does do the job - it's been proven to give results time and again.

Ignorance...pffff :roll: What ever dude. I'll stop trying to be helpful.

[ethree]

I wouldn't really call this:

http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/diypnp-bosch-55pin-unassembled-kit-pi-385.html?image=0

Plug and play?

But for $430 it ain't bad.

The guy has done a lot of work for you but it isn't just like you pull the ecu replace with this and you're good to go, there is still significant work yet to be done.

[george graves]

Yea, I think nado was talking about the pre-assembedld kits ~$700. But ummm, yea.

[nando]

Oh, I forgot they recently started selling "plug and play" units. Are there many people running them?



Sorry - I guess there is a $240 unit?

I know plenty of people that hate MS. Think it's a nightmare. But it does do the job - it's been proven to give results time and again.

Ignorance...pffff :roll: What ever dude. I'll stop trying to be helpful.

yeah, ignorance. sorry man, but a rose is still a rose by any other name.

MS1 v2.2 would suck ($240, who would want it?), but saying "it gets the job done" without having any knowledge of it's capabilities or even what version you're talking about is ignorant.

most of the people who "hate" MS don't know anything about it, or came across somebody with a hack job installation that had problems.

[nando]

I wouldn't really call this:

http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/diypnp-bosch-55pin-unassembled-kit-pi-385.html?image=0

Plug and play?

But for $430 it ain't bad.

The guy has done a lot of work for you but it isn't just like you pull the ecu replace with this and you're good to go, there is still significant work yet to be done.

actually it's close. you need a TPS and an IAT, otherwise you can use all stock sensors. having a wideband is a good idea, but not strictly neccesary. of course you also need to be able to tune it, but that's way above most people's heads regardless of what hardware it is. that's why MarkD makes chips...

[george graves]

Dude - no one is hating on MS. Calm down. Do you know those guys or something?

I've work on and help tune a megasquirt install that was a magazine featured car - so....not exactly a hacked install.

[Chabs]

I have a megasquirt in my e30 but I have an M10. It can be annoying for sure, but my car is fast as fuck thanks to it.

[nando]

Dude - no one is hating on MS. Calm down. Do you know those guys or something?

I've work on and help tune a megasquirt install that was a magazine featured car - so....not exactly a hacked install.

that's fantastic, but yet you think that a $240 MS1 fuel only setup is remotely comparable to a $700 plug and play MS2? that's what I meant by ignorance. lighten up dude. ;)

not saying you don't know anything about anything, or that you hated MS, just saying there's a lot more out there than you think and it has way more capabilities than merely getting the job done. Especially the newest stuff. The software isn't even the same as what you probably used for that magazine car.

the PnP kits aren't exactly hard to build either; the MS itself is already done (microsquirt/MS2 module) you're just building the adapter. If somebody can't handle that then they probably should be paying somebody else to do the whole thing for them.

There's a reason why one MS kit costs $240 and another costs $700.. and there's still nothing comparable at that price. The only thing close is VEMS, and MS3 is on the same level. to get more features than MS3 (or current VEMS) you'd have to spend triple the money, at least. How many people here are going to spend $3k on an ECU? Most of them won't even spend $200 on a real chip. :p

the DIYpnp isn't the only option out there either, it's just the most complete and straight forward, along with having the most built in capabilities. People have been building PnP megasquirts for years now. RS4pro3 and lifeiskaos are two that I can think of off the top of my head.

as far as knowing "those guys" - who? It's not like there's one guy out there making these things in his garage, although since it's inception they haven't been able to shake that perception. :)

[ethree]

As far as knowing "those guys" - who? It's not like there's one guy out there making these things in his garage, although since it's inception they haven't been able to shake that perception. :)

The site gives the impression that it's a one man or extremely small business. The site sort of looks DIY.

The products look good though if I didn't have a diesel injection pump doing all my engine management I'd absolutely consider buying one from diyautotune.com