FINALLY, the sunroofs

[niq_nak]

did some thinking about it and im definately in. any estimation on when these will be available?

[UNHCLL]

get a job you lazy fuckers. shit, i'll take two.

Jobs conflict with Gym Class and Study hall.

lol, sorry zach morris. guess i'll meet you and the gang at the max after school for some burgers.

I cant!
Mr. Belding has me in detention for skipping class... AGAIN!

I think I'll blame Screech

[grapedrink]

yes, but these peices that are cf are more for show then race. the fg parts are a full on race part. about as close as you get to full weight reduction. only other option would be to do what bryson did and gut the hell out of the roof and weld in a ~3x2 piece of tin.

the CF roof is basicly the fg one with the top half being cf. there is also the shinny coats that they have to spray on there to make it look pretty and be able to withstand the elements.

therefore the cf peice is heavier and costs more money, this isnt an auction. <--- PERIOD, in case some of you didnt realize.

The CF is a heavy ass show piece and to make it look good you need to spray on all of this crap. Thats your first problem. Try makeing something that looks good right out of the mold. Do you think CART has an extra 400lbs of gelcoat on their cars to give them strength and to make them "withstand the elements". And you just proved my point for 99.9% of the CF stuff out there on the market. It is all fake. It is fiberglass with a small section of CF. Properly done CF is 100% CF and you don't need any of that shitty gelcoat to make it look good and to withstand the elemnets.

[M-technik-3]

yes, but these peices that are cf are more for show then race. the fg parts are a full on race part. about as close as you get to full weight reduction. only other option would be to do what bryson did and gut the hell out of the roof and weld in a ~3x2 piece of tin.

the CF roof is basicly the fg one with the top half being cf. there is also the shinny coats that they have to spray on there to make it look pretty and be able to withstand the elements.

therefore the cf peice is heavier and costs more money, this isnt an auction. <--- PERIOD, in case some of you didnt realize.

The CF is a heavy ass show piece and to make it look good you need to spray on all of this crap. Thats your first problem. Try makeing something that looks good right out of the mold. Do you think CART has an extra 400lbs of gelcoat on their cars to give them strength and to make them "withstand the elements". And you just proved my point for 99.9% of the CF stuff out there on the market. It is all fake. It is fiberglass with a small section of CF. Properly done CF is 100% CF and you don't need any of that shitty gelcoat to make it look good and to withstand the elemnets.

Not going to crap on thread, but Shahe, nice piece...

Grapedrink yes you do need coatings to protect CF from enviroment. I have an A&P and have worked with CF, Kevlar and FG before and without proper coatings it breaks down in the enviroment. Delaminates and what not.

Cart race cars are not used forever and they have strict safety controls so they are always checking for stress crack and stuff of this nature.

[grapedrink]

Not going to crap on thread, but Shahe, nice piece...

Grapedrink yes you do need coatings to protect CF from enviroment. I have an A&P and have worked with CF, Kevlar and FG before and without proper coatings it breaks down in the enviroment. Delaminates and what not.

Cart race cars are not used forever and they have strict safety controls so they are always checking for stress crack and stuff of this nature.

Yes of course if it is bare CF but we are talking aobut heavy ass gelcoat layers here. A clear coat works :!:

Race cars see far more abuse than our cars do. Ever 3 years or so they get a new tub. There regulations are the way they are because they know what CF does. CF doesn't crack.

[MR 325]

:rofl: @ cheap R3V members........if you're saving your allowance up, stop wasting people's time by showing "interest"

Good luck Shahe. Keep strong. There would be I'd think people interested in FG in more "adult" locations that drive E30s for sport. Think of where IE might sell FG trunks to, like BMWCCA racers, etc etc and go there. There's a few R3V users who'd throw down......but, yeah

Like you could afford it "Mr. I am selling parts to buy vodka" ;)

[e30sd]

yes, but these peices that are cf are more for show then race. the fg parts are a full on race part. about as close as you get to full weight reduction. only other option would be to do what bryson did and gut the hell out of the roof and weld in a ~3x2 piece of tin.

the CF roof is basicly the fg one with the top half being cf. there is also the shinny coats that they have to spray on there to make it look pretty and be able to withstand the elements.

therefore the cf peice is heavier and costs more money, this isnt an auction. <--- PERIOD, in case some of you didnt realize.

The CF is a heavy ass show piece and to make it look good you need to spray on all of this crap. Thats your first problem. Try makeing something that looks good right out of the mold. Do you think CART has an extra 400lbs of gelcoat on their cars to give them strength and to make them "withstand the elements". And you just proved my point for 99.9% of the CF stuff out there on the market. It is all fake. It is fiberglass with a small section of CF. Properly done CF is 100% CF and you don't need any of that shitty gelcoat to make it look good and to withstand the elemnets.

man stfu. if you're gonna make a point of comparison, dont use a worn out old has been spec series. champ cars used to be the shit, but dont get me started on one show joe heitzler and the PO which effectively sold CART out to gerry forsythe, pat patrick, and all those other greedy fuckers. remember when nigel hansell came over? lol, and how about "the pass" at seca in '97. those were the glory days.

i still want one

[Charlie]

yes, but these peices that are cf are more for show then race. the fg parts are a full on race part. about as close as you get to full weight reduction. only other option would be to do what bryson did and gut the hell out of the roof and weld in a ~3x2 piece of tin.

the CF roof is basicly the fg one with the top half being cf. there is also the shinny coats that they have to spray on there to make it look pretty and be able to withstand the elements.

therefore the cf peice is heavier and costs more money, this isnt an auction. <--- PERIOD, in case some of you didnt realize.

The CF is a heavy ass show piece and to make it look good you need to spray on all of this crap. Thats your first problem. Try makeing something that looks good right out of the mold. Do you think CART has an extra 400lbs of gelcoat on their cars to give them strength and to make them "withstand the elements". And you just proved my point for 99.9% of the CF stuff out there on the market. It is all fake. It is fiberglass with a small section of CF. Properly done CF is 100% CF and you don't need any of that shitty gelcoat to make it look good and to withstand the elemnets.

I don't think CART has much of anything anymore, they've been bankrupt for over a year. The leftover "OWRS" cars are five and 6 year old tubs which are mostly filler rather than any actual CF anymore.

-Charlie

[e30sd]

yes, but these peices that are cf are more for show then race. the fg parts are a full on race part. about as close as you get to full weight reduction. only other option would be to do what bryson did and gut the hell out of the roof and weld in a ~3x2 piece of tin.

the CF roof is basicly the fg one with the top half being cf. there is also the shinny coats that they have to spray on there to make it look pretty and be able to withstand the elements.

therefore the cf peice is heavier and costs more money, this isnt an auction. <--- PERIOD, in case some of you didnt realize.

The CF is a heavy ass show piece and to make it look good you need to spray on all of this crap. Thats your first problem. Try makeing something that looks good right out of the mold. Do you think CART has an extra 400lbs of gelcoat on their cars to give them strength and to make them "withstand the elements". And you just proved my point for 99.9% of the CF stuff out there on the market. It is all fake. It is fiberglass with a small section of CF. Properly done CF is 100% CF and you don't need any of that shitty gelcoat to make it look good and to withstand the elemnets.

I don't think CART has much of anything anymore, they've been bankrupt for over a year. The leftover "OWRS" cars are five and 6 year old tubs which are mostly filler rather than any actual CF anymore.

-Charlie

lol, apple cores and crumpled up chinese newspapers (Mao died?)

back on topic, i called trent, but he's too busy to talk to me. shahe, what do i need to do so you can take my money? seriously, i want 7 of these...

[shahe]

pasha, youre gonna get a pm.

as for nutdrink, you have no clue what you are saying. yes, most cf parts have fg underlayers, especially on very detailed parts. you guys cant even afford this peice, imagine if i had made a full cf sunroof, people would shit their pants at the prices. with out proper uv protection, these peices go to junk. cart and other race cars see action a few times a month, last i check, most people on this board drive their cars daily. also a tub is underneath paint and all kinds of other covers, your sunroof is the most exposed part of your car.

[bkelsey86]

lol, apple cores and crumpled up chinese newspapers (Mao died?)

lol, everything I learned in life I learned from the simpsons.

[e30sd]

thank you.


disposable income + e30 = bad equation. oh well.

[grapedrink]

Dude why are you bringing in politics into this? I was just stateing how they are made. Geez man.

You only think I have no clue what I am saying. The reality is that you are so closed minded on your process to even know how todo proper CF parts. Who said I coulden't afford it? I could if I wanted to buy why wast my money on a fiberglass part that has a sheet of CF on the top. Why not spend the money on a real CF part fo the same price, weighs less and is strong. Yup and I am saying that it can stay out in the sun all it wants. Nothing is going to happen to it.

pasha, youre gonna get a pm.

as for nutdrink, you have no clue what you are saying. yes, most cf parts have fg underlayers, especially on very detailed parts. you guys cant even afford this peice, imagine if i had made a full cf sunroof, people would shit their pants at the prices. with out proper uv protection, these peices go to junk. cart and other race cars see action a few times a month, last i check, most people on this board drive their cars daily. also a tub is underneath paint and all kinds of other covers, your sunroof is the most exposed part of your car.

[erik325i]

are you guys buying this for functionality or just looks?

Because imo, it would look pretty damn ugly if you left the sunroof CF pattern. FG is lighter and cheaper, seems like it has best of both worlds.

But for functionality, I would imagine that it would make absolutely zero difference for 99.9% of people here.

I agree.

[CleanAzzE30z]

are you guys buying this for functionality or just looks?

Because imo, it would look pretty damn ugly if you left the sunroof CF pattern. FG is lighter and cheaper, seems like it has best of both worlds.

But for functionality, I would imagine that it would make absolutely zero difference for 99.9% of people here.

Or maybe, I'm missing the point, and I just need to be enlightened.

Be enlightened to the fact that not everyone thinks like you.

For all you people saying you have "friends", Ive heard this time and time again. I get people who think they know everything rag on the CF shit on my car because of its imperfections, and they say they can make a better one (not knowing how hard it really is to make one that is quality at a decent price). If its so fucking easy, stop talking, start acting. If you dont want it, dont buy it, but dont talk shit about your cousins husbands second uncles step son being able to make a better one. Then the market would be flooded with this shit if it was easy to make a quality piece.