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  • r3vlimiter
    Noobie
    • May 2010
    • 18

    #1

    cutting springs

    i just got another 85 325e. I want to cut the springs, but noticed that there shaped like a bee stinger. just wanted to know if anyone had pointers on were to cutt them and how many coils i can do for a good stance on the car.
  • 619E30
    E30 Mastermind
    • Feb 2010
    • 1753

    #2
    You should make a proper intro to r3v before asking any questions. But welcome!
    Originally posted by audiquattrot
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    • r3vlimiter
      Noobie
      • May 2010
      • 18

      #3
      like?

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      • Desaevious
        No R3VLimiter
        • Aug 2007
        • 3810

        #4
        Bart Simpson, he doesn't need to do that...this isn't group therapy.

        You might get flamed for your request on "cutting springs," since this is a topic that has been convered numerous times and most original posters are just cheap dumbasses. Cutting isn't recommended nor safe, but here is some reading material on the matter.

        Using the search function and narrowing it down to the suspension subforum would do the trick just so you know in the future, but here's some reading:









        Now if you are looking to not half ass the job and buy springs, then us on the forums will help you get the ride quality you want by recommending what suspension would work best for you and your budget.

        SC*AR (Schwarz Army)
        No longer stock ride height, rolling as low as a daily driver in New England should without worrying about breaking an oil pan. :up:

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        • r3vlimiter
          Noobie
          • May 2010
          • 18

          #5
          good lookin out

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          • Jand3rson
            Banned
            • Oct 2003
            • 37587

            #6
            Originally posted by Desaevious
            Cutting isn't recommended nor safe
            I'd like to see your proof on this. I have one full dead coil cut off from the top, on the fronts of my IE3 springs. I have since been on many long drives, including several autocross events and noticed or experienced NO adverse handling effects and no change in ride quality. My car has not once felt unsafe in a corner or at speed since removing the one coil at the fronts.

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            • Iain
              R3VLimited
              • Oct 2005
              • 2815

              #7
              Originally posted by Janderson
              I'd like to see your proof on this. I have one full dead coil cut off from the top, on the fronts of my IE3 springs. I have since been on many long drives, including several autocross events and noticed or experienced NO adverse handling effects and no change in ride quality. My car has not once felt unsafe in a corner or at speed since removing the one coil at the fronts.
              Josh, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that cutting a spring will change how it acts through its range of movement. Most people cut too much, which makes it hugely dangerous as the spring can't stay captured between the perch and the top-hat and will fall out. Nah, that's not dangerous at all!

              How is any coil in a captured spring "dead"? Were your springs too big for your shocks or something? I reckon if you put proper springs/shocks in your car, had them set-up properly (with no care/consideration for how it looks) it'd handle and ride much better. I honestly cannot see how anyone could think cutting a piece of your spring off won't significantly affect the action of the spring - it's not just bits of scrap tube wound around a few times and cut to length!

              Cutting springs is retarded - if aesthetics mean so much, get coilovers and do it less dodgily.
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              • Desaevious
                No R3VLimiter
                • Aug 2007
                • 3810

                #8
                Truthfully Josh I have none other than reading that the general consensus throughout this board deems it as being something to do very carefully so its not recommended. It can be done retardedly wrong. I can't give members credit for being smart enough to not fuck things up.

                SC*AR (Schwarz Army)
                No longer stock ride height, rolling as low as a daily driver in New England should without worrying about breaking an oil pan. :up:

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                • JT325is
                  E30 Fanatic
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 1242

                  #9
                  i had two dead coils cut once. it wasnt a problem, might have a little more camber than usual though. i dont recommend it.
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                  • r3vlimiter
                    Noobie
                    • May 2010
                    • 18

                    #10
                    how much is to much?

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                    • Jand3rson
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 37587

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Iain
                      Josh, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that cutting a spring will change how it acts through its range of movement. Most people cut too much, which makes it hugely dangerous as the spring can't stay captured between the perch and the top-hat and will fall out. Nah, that's not dangerous at all!

                      How is any coil in a captured spring "dead"? Were your springs too big for your shocks or something? I reckon if you put proper springs/shocks in your car, had them set-up properly (with no care/consideration for how it looks) it'd handle and ride much better. I honestly cannot see how anyone could think cutting a piece of your spring off won't significantly affect the action of the spring - it's not just bits of scrap tube wound around a few times and cut to length!

                      Cutting springs is retarded - if aesthetics mean so much, get coilovers and do it less dodgily.
                      I never said it would not change the spring rate or affect its range of movement. That's just plain common sense. I wanted the front to be slightly lower, and I wanted to see what, if any, negative effects would stem from it. Since I've had these springs for about 3-4 years, and I am planning on going to coilovers soon, I said fuck it and took a whack at it. Or a cutting wheel, if you will.

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                      • CleanAzzE30z
                        R3V OG
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 11794

                        #12
                        I believe springs are progressivley different resistance troughout the coil, if Im not mistaken. As the spring contracts, it gets harder to press. Its built like that on purpose to prevent it from bottoming out. We all know, cutting springs is cutting corners and cutting corners on something as important as an important a piece of suspension as the spring cant be completely safe. Yes, chances are that nothing will happen, but you must at least agree that its not as safe as getting lowering springs. No? Plus its readily obvious that the thread originator is new to this concept and we dont want to give the impression that this kind of behavior is widely accepted. Plus it doesnt look like the correct amount of knowledge as to how/where to cut the springs is there. I dunno, I just wouldnt do it, what with springs not being that expensive.

                        Im gonna feel real stupid if something Ive held to be fact for all this time turns out to be another myth.


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                        • Jand3rson
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 37587

                          #13
                          I will heartily agree that doing something like cutting large amounts of material from STOCK springs to achieve the same drop as true lowering springs is half-assed, cutting corners, and likely fairly unsafe. In my defense, I took only one coil off the top, with a total drop of about a half-inch, probably less.

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                          • r3vlimiter
                            Noobie
                            • May 2010
                            • 18

                            #14
                            that cool and all how much is to much i just want my car to look sick and no i dont have the money for coil overs so... 2 rear 3 front

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                            • Jand3rson
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 37587

                              #15
                              Save your money and buy lowering springs or coilovers. If you must go the cheap route, there are plenty of springs and coilover kits for the E30 that will get you low for low's-sake.

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