Audi Coupe Quatro

[b*saint]

i hate to tell you, but you don't see lots of coupe quattros because they sold in smaller numbers (less than 700 in the US) than e30's, therefore making them more collectible than the e30 is, the e30 was "cool" when it first came out, is "wicked fucking old" as well (they are born of the same era), and if i follow your logic, one should stay away from e30's for those reasons. i didn't know "old" was a reason to stay away from cars, hmmm...

Yea it is. The older the car, the more likely the crustier the wiring especially if they spent most of their life in areas that get all 4 seasons. Old cars built as poorly as VW cars generally have shitty quality cabling and insulation, poorly designed electrical parts (save bosch components), and poorly chosen ground points. My brother's '91 VW horn intermittently honked when you touched the shaft of the shifter. Even my brother - in - law's '96 VW has had zillions of issues. Recommending someone to stay away from old VWs does not mean I am saying stay away from all old vehicles. You read into things like my wife.

[b*saint]

O i just realized you're a vw guy.

[quikveedb2]

O i just realized you're a vw guy.

lol, what gave me away. i'm also a volvo, saab, mercedes, and so on "guy." i was just stating a few facts & following your logic to what seemed like an obvious conclusion. vw's of that vintage have electrical problems, so do mercedes, mg's, hondas, toyotas, bmws, etc. the same could be said of any other brand of car in the 80's. old cars have issues, it's a fact of life.

[Ryann]

Heavy and poorly balanced, but cool. Parts prices are pretty high (even compared to BMW). OK for a street car, as long as you can find a clean example that needs little/no work.

Actually, they weigh about the same as my m42 powered 4D e30. Like most AWD cars they do tend to understeer.

Pretty rare, unlike the e30- hence the higher parts prices.

[Holland]

I don't give a shit, I love them and would rock the living hell out of one given the chance.

[ethree]

Actually, they weigh about the same as my m42 powered 4D e30.

What did you do to a 318 to get it to weigh 3200lbs?

CQ's are cool and can be made very fast 300-400hp easy, they can also be made to handle but that takes some work.

[b*saint]

lol, what gave me away. i'm also a volvo, saab, mercedes, and so on "guy." i was just stating a few facts & following your logic to what seemed like an obvious conclusion. vw's of that vintage have electrical problems, so do mercedes, mg's, hondas, toyotas, bmws, etc. the same could be said of any other brand of car in the 80's. old cars have issues, it's a fact of life.

Actually Im going to call you quotes & logic guy. Mercedes, Volvo, and MGs from back then also suck balls. Lets be realistic. My old 91 Accord I got rid of 2 years ago was mint. No electrical issues 'cept a starter which is reasonable wear item for a car from 1991 till now. But lets just cut the shit. Its my opinion so just fuck off. :hitler:

[dirty30]

they are mountains of garbage, but a cool coupe besides the electrical/ mechanical issues

[delatlanta1281]

The reason you don't see as many has nothing to do with the POS status, it's the number realeased in the US. If that were the case, you would see no MK2 golfs, and they are everywhere. Bsaint, you are correct in stating the obvious, but the mane thing with this particular model to watch out for is the AWD system, and electrical system. If the OP were to find an all original, low mile car, he would be fine. But at this point, that would be pretty hard.
I myself would shy away from an IX at all costs unless the above statements applied as well. That being said, I am slowly starting to love the old VWs due to my MK1 gti build. Parts are cheap, they are easy as pie to work on, and they are cool looking. Owning 2 vws presently i would shy away from anything newer due to the dreaded CEL. but an MK1.... that's a different story.

Mercedes, Volvo, and MGs from back then also suck balls. Lets be realistic.

And you are a retard if you think old volvos are unreliable. i have yet to find someone who has owned a 240 say it sucked. Mine took me to 400k miles and more on the same engine. i highly doubt (because I will never drive it that much) that my e30 will do that on the original engine. Many Benzes are the same quality as BMWs. They will go to 250k with regular upkeep and care.

[M-technik-3]

Heavy and poorly balanced, but cool. Parts prices are pretty high (even compared to BMW). OK for a street car, as long as you can find a clean example that needs little/no work.

Parts are becoming increasingly NLA just ask some members over at the Audi boards. But if I was going to do one it would be an URQ.

[quikveedb2]

I am slowly starting to love the old VWs due to my MK1 gti build. Parts are cheap, they are easy as pie to work on, and they are cool looking...And you are a retard if you think old volvos are unreliable. i have yet to find someone who has owned a 240 say it sucked. Mine took me to 400k miles and more on the same engine. i highly doubt (because I will never drive it that much) that my e30 will do that on the original engine. Many Benzes are the same quality as BMWs. They will go to 250k with regular upkeep and care.

quoted for the mother fucking truth. 240's kick ass. not to mention that even a bone stock mk1 gti is fun as hell to drive, and rivals the e30 for visceral driving experience. b*saint, you're an idiot, your 91 accord is not of the same generation as these cars, but thanks for playing. i challenge you to find a mid 80's honda with +150k with no electrical or mechanical issues, and bmw has their fair share, for example: the icv, main relay, blower motor resistor, and the list goes on. you're welcome to your opinion, but you can fuck off, and ead as well.

[M-technik-3]

CIS and CIS-E is a PIA though with out a doubt, Motronic is great in comparision.

[BeirBrennerE30]

I love the style of those Audi coupes. And you all ready have a path laid out for you for OE mods with the S2 and the RS2. I know nothing of their issues. Just think they are cool and really unique.

[erwendell]

In the end, you're going to do what you want. That said...

I had a ten year fling with Audis. Last year I bought a 325iX. I don't miss my Audis. I gave away the 90 quattro that was my daily driver until I got the iX. For the record, the 90 quattro sedan is lighter than the coupe by a few hundred pounds.

Audi (VAG actually) got some stuff right. The drivetrain is pretty much indestructible. The body, starting with the mid 80s 5000/100/200 series cars and the 80/90 series cars won't rust because the entire chassis was hot dipped galvanized. The aerodynamics are better than any other car built at the time. The rest is just crap. Overly complex, poorly designed, difficult to troubleshoot/access/get parts for systems. The basic layout of the drivetrain makes for a car with an overly long nose with too much weight. You will notice the difference. I don't care what suspension bits you throw at it, it will never drive like a BMW. Try doing even simple maintenance on it without throwing things and having a mental breakdown.

The Audi cognoscenti refer to the factory as "team door handle" and "worlds best electrical engineers" for a reason. I dare you to find an 80's Audi with functioning door handles, door locks, power windows, and climate control system. If you want a real laugh, look at what passes for strut mounts.

I do miss the unique growl of the 5 cylinder though.

[Vedubin01]

I picked up a 91 Audi Coupe Q, and was working towards the RS2 conversion. The car is super heavy and with out the 5cyl turbo it was underpowered. The AWD worked well and the car was solid. Because the CoupeQ only came to the states for 2 years it has hard to find parts when needed. I was never able to do the motor swap. I ended up selling it and moved into the E30's.

I had a picture in the what cars have you owned thread. Ill see if I can dig it up.


Edit for picture....