How to ceramic coat?

[diegom6]

Was wodering how hard/expensive would be to get a ceramic coating process....from what I know, down here nobody does it or the only company that does this job, makes a crappy job and looks horrible that ceramic coating.

Not sure if I need a big ass oven, the ceramic base if it's costly, etc etc. I would like to ceramic cot some parts of my cars, but at the same time was thinking that I might make some profits of this if I sell the service.... does someone know about this stuff?

Thanks for any input.

-Diego

[jaywood]

The size of the oven depends on the size of your parts. If you're doing a car frame...then you need a huge oven. But if it's just a small tube then you can use a kitchen oven.

As far as the process goes......

Remove all oils/dirt.
Sand/sand blast
Wipe with lint free cloth
Place part in oven to "out-gas" it (removes all water/moisture) at about 400 F for a half hour.
Hang part, don't touch with bare skin (super hot, and puts oils back on the part)
Make sure paint is mixed
Spray part
Let air dry for 15 minutes
Place in oven at 175 F to out-gas again for 20 minutes
With the part still in the oven, crank it up to 500-700 F and cure part for an hour.
Let air cool
Polish

You're done!

Costs: 4 oz:$18.99 (for chrome)

[blocke]

OP what parts are you doing? Wouldn't powder coating be a more viable option?

[diegom6]

Cool tip man! I appreciate it.

I would like to coat my turbo header, turbine housing, downpipe, etc. Also my s14 OEM header like this one and few other parts:) I think the black ceramic coat support higher temps, for example, turbo applications and the chrome type more for the N.A. engines, however the N.A. engines also get the header glowing with long runs....

[MC Hammered]

Is your turbo header/exhaust manifold cast or tubular steel?

[Farbin Kaiber]

Need a pretty mean ass oven to get 700 outta it.

[diegom6]

Is your turbo header/exhaust manifold cast or tubular steel?

Tubular steel.

[MC Hammered]

You might want to reconsider ceramic coating the tubular manifold.

I had my exhaust manifold coated with Swaintech White Lightning ceramic coating and it did its job a bit too well and turned the stainless steel into a brittle material

Link to the thread is here: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...Now-with-video!!!

[diegom6]

Thanks for the info.....then I guess nothing is good but exhaust wrapp only?

[MC Hammered]

You could wrap it if you want but I don't think it is worth the effort.

Wrapping it also hides any hairline cracks from being viewed when you do a visual inspection.

[diegom6]

You could wrap it if you want but I don't think it is worth the effort.

Wrapping it also hides any hairline cracks from being viewed when you do a visual inspection.

That's true for that matter I have "ears" that waffleswaffleswaffles sa good job when a crack or some cracks are present when the parts are wrapped;) Already experienced that couple of times.

Oh well look slike ceramic coating is not the ultimate source for this subject with 100% good results.:(

[einstein57]

I had some long tube headers that were jet jot coated. Not sure if its any different then regular ceramic coating. Anywho it worked great. I would not try it on thin tubes though. Mine were stupid thick and weighed more then the factory cast setup.

[payney8]

Depends on thickness of the metal really. Id go ceramic coating if there of a decent metal and your getting it up in the temps otherwise it isnt really worth it.

[nando]

The size of the oven depends on the size of your parts. If you're doing a car frame...then you need a huge oven. But if it's just a small tube then you can use a kitchen oven.

As far as the process goes......

Remove all oils/dirt.
Sand/sand blast
Wipe with lint free cloth
Place part in oven to "out-gas" it (removes all water/moisture) at about 400 F for a half hour.
Hang part, don't touch with bare skin (super hot, and puts oils back on the part)
Make sure paint is mixed
Spray part
Let air dry for 15 minutes
Place in oven at 175 F to out-gas again for 20 minutes
With the part still in the oven, crank it up to 500-700 F and cure part for an hour.
Let air cool
Polish

You're done!

Costs: 4 oz:$18.99 (for chrome)

seriously? I know where I can get old ovens really cheap..

[nando]

You might want to reconsider ceramic coating the tubular manifold.

I had my exhaust manifold coated with Swaintech White Lightning ceramic coating and it did its job a bit too well and turned the stainless steel into a brittle material

Link to the thread is here: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...Now-with-video!!!

interesting. Also noticed it's only coated on the outside. I wonder if that has something to do with it?

that's also a *really* ugly coating. lol