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  • Raxe
    R3V Elite
    • Nov 2006
    • 5346

    #16
    Really? A truck engine is designed for a heavy truck, just like a compact car engine is designed for a compact car. The emphasis is on towing, hauling and being huge. It's not on revving, being light and keeping the car balanced.

    Sure you can put a Dodge Viper engine into a pickup truck and call it "sporty", but try putting a Cummins diesel in a Viper and you'll see what I mean.

    >> 1988 3.1 ITB E30 /// 2002 E46 M3 6MT / 2008 335xi 6MT / 1991 S38B36 E30 (sold)

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    • dkbmxer002
      E30 Fanatic
      • Nov 2007
      • 1389

      #17
      Originally posted by Raxe
      Really? A truck engine is designed for a heavy truck, just like a compact car engine is designed for a compact car. The emphasis is on towing, hauling and being huge. It's not on revving, being light and keeping the car balanced.

      Sure you can put a Dodge Viper engine into a pickup truck and call it "sporty", but try putting a Cummins diesel in a Viper and you'll see what I mean.

      we aren't talking diesels. we are talking gas motors.


      and you can design a motor to do more than one thing. the ls motor makes torque in both the sports cars and the trucks. and i am confused by your technical term of "being huge" benefiting anything?

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      • briansjacobs
        E30 Fanatic
        • May 2010
        • 1278

        #18
        Originally posted by Raxe
        Really? A truck engine is designed for a heavy truck, just like a compact car engine is designed for a compact car. The emphasis is on towing, hauling and being huge. It's not on revving, being light and keeping the car balanced.

        Sure you can put a Dodge Viper engine into a pickup truck and call it "sporty", but try putting a Cummins diesel in a Viper and you'll see what I mean.
        hurry call Audi, BMW, & Peugot and tell them to abandon their low revving diesel race car programs that are killing petrol engines.
        Brian Jacobs

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        • e30s52
          R3V Elite
          • Oct 2007
          • 5235

          #19
          Originally posted by Raxe
          Really? A truck engine is designed for a heavy truck, just like a compact car engine is designed for a compact car. The emphasis is on towing, hauling and being huge. It's not on revving, being light and keeping the car balanced.

          Sure you can put a Dodge Viper engine into a pickup truck and call it "sporty", but try putting a Cummins diesel in a Viper and you'll see what I mean.
          So the e70 x5m was built for towing?

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          • briansjacobs
            E30 Fanatic
            • May 2010
            • 1278

            #20
            Originally posted by Raxe
            t try putting a Cummins diesel in a Viper and you'll see what I mean.
            Brian Jacobs

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            • Raxe
              R3V Elite
              • Nov 2006
              • 5346

              #21
              Originally posted by dkbmxer002
              and you can design a motor to do more than one thing. the ls motor makes torque in both the sports cars and the trucks. and i am confused by your technical term of "being huge" benefiting anything?
              The "LS" motor is a very broad and varying engine with many different configurations. Pretty sure the LS7 is nothing like its Vortec counterpart. Huge = more hauling capacity.

              Originally posted by e30s52
              So the e70 x5m was built for towing?
              6600lbs worth according to BMW.

              I live Alberta, the truck capital of at least Canada if not North America. The drag strips here are flooded with rig rockets coming down from the oil sands. Probably a 5:1 ratio to cars. Trust me, I know how fast they are... in a straight line. A lot of them are even running mid to low 11's in all their 9 foot tall, dual 8-inch-stack black hell-smoke glory. But I think everyone here can agree that there's more to a car than driving in a straight line, right?
              Last edited by Raxe; 08-14-2010, 08:48 PM.

              >> 1988 3.1 ITB E30 /// 2002 E46 M3 6MT / 2008 335xi 6MT / 1991 S38B36 E30 (sold)

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              • dkbmxer002
                E30 Fanatic
                • Nov 2007
                • 1389

                #22

                a buddy of mine has a newer 2500 dodge diesel that is running 10's.

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                • dkbmxer002
                  E30 Fanatic
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 1389

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Raxe
                  The "LS" motor is a very broad and varying engine with many different configurations. Pretty sure the LS7 is nothing like its Vortec counterpart. Huge = more hauling capacity.

                  huge what? the motor? the vehicle? what makes something move? horsepower and torque...

                  also the blocks are the same, only major differences is cam specs, intake manifold, head specs, crank's and rod's etc change some more and some less depending on size of motor obviously. and fyi alot of people swap out truck heads for performance setups and many many people swap out truck motors for race setups... and fyi you can build a truck ls motor to rev up quite nicely.

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                  • Danny
                    Moderator
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 14217

                    #24
                    Originally posted by dkbmxer002
                    huge what? the motor? the vehicle? what makes something move? horsepower and torque...

                    also the blocks are the same, only major differences is cam specs, intake manifold, head specs, crank's and rod's etc change some more and some less depending on size of motor obviously. and fyi alot of people swap out truck heads for performance setups and many many people swap out truck motors for race setups... and fyi you can build a truck ls motor to rev up quite nicely.
                    But they are setup differently for the car/truck they are in, no?

                    I disagree with Raxe, in the way he phrased his statement but he does have a point. Big motor does not equal sports car.

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                    • dkbmxer002
                      E30 Fanatic
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 1389

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Danny
                      But they are setup differently for the car/truck they are in, no?

                      I disagree with Raxe, in the way he phrased his statement but he does have a point. Big motor does not equal sports car.

                      oh they are, agreed there. it's amazing how much people use the truck parts for performance application's though.


                      but again i disagree that big motor can not equal sports car. of course, not always. but it DOES work.

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                      • Jand3rson
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 37587

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Danny
                        Big motor does not equal sports car.
                        Case in point:

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                        • Danny
                          Moderator
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 14217

                          #27
                          Originally posted by dkbmxer002
                          but again i disagree that big motor can not equal sports car. of course, not always. but it DOES work.


                          Originally posted by Janderson
                          Case in point:



                          Agreed on both counts.

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                          • Jand3rson
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 37587

                            #28
                            I'm sorry, but a Pontiac GTO Judge is not a sports car. That is THE furthest thing from a sports car that you can possibly get.

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                            • Danny
                              Moderator
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 14217

                              #29
                              Well define sports car.

                              Edit: If you mean a well handling car, I'll replace the judge with the aforementioned Viper ACR

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                              • dkbmxer002
                                E30 Fanatic
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 1389

                                #30

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