Malvo only got life in prison

[shahe]

texas also has a low crime rate becuase some cities allow everyone to carry a gun. there is one city where the crime rate is .01 thanks to this law :). i love texas!

There are a lot of guns in West Baltimore, but their crime rate is through the roof. Are you telling me that Houston has a low crime rate? I beg to differ. Crime rates in cities have to do with sub-cultures within them, not with hicks carrying guns. There has never been any evidence to support a negative correlation between guns and crime. :roll:

you know what the diffrence is? in W. Balt its not legal for everyone to carry a gun, people just have one. and huston isnt one of the cities where they allow it either.

there is a a huge correlation between guns and crime. If i have a gun, and the guy next to me has a gun, and the guy behind me and in front of me do to, i dare your dumbass to try to rob anyone of us :), your gonna think twice, trust me.

its the bloody liberal pukes that dont want there to be any type of correlation, so they can ban guns all together. when it comes down to it, there are too many red blooded americans how love their cold steel too much for any small group to beable to take away that right.

i dont know what went wrong in america, and when it happened, but our justice system is fucked to shit. how can you actually sit there and go, no we should get rid of a person who knowingly killed a group of people in more then one situation. where is the common sense! so basicly your saying i can go off and kill a few people, but i shouldnt be killed, i should be allowed to live, and by allowing me to live, i can appeal my sentence, and/or find a way around it, or get paroled... i love the thought process.

id much rather live in jail then be killed. this is coming from a guy who has over a dozen close friends who are serving or have served. ive herd every story and situation about jail, id much rather be in there then 6 feet under.

It's quite obvious that you're some ignorant highschool student who has never studied crime and/or the criminal justice system of this country or those of others. (And after reading your incoherant ramblings, you'll be lucky to graduate).
It doesn't make any difference regarding how one obtains a gun, only that they have one. And I'm sure much more people in North Philidelphia or West Baltimore have guns than the residents of the podunk town in Texas you're reffering to.
Also, you can't just conjure up some hypothetical situation and refer to it as statistical fact. If you're so adament about protecting second ammendment rights, wouldn't you then believe that the would-be criminal about to shoot you also has the right to carry a gun?

you are obviously from Eugene. happen to be a law student, what are you? No, i am not in high school that was a few years ago, and thank you sirt, but i did rather well in high school. as far as yourstupidity aboutt he whole situation, yes, everyone has the right to carry a gun, and if everyone did carry a gun, most people would be a little less likely to rob you, why? because you have a gun also. its like this mr goodness, if i have legs and you dont, and you HADDD to beat me me at something and i got to pick, id pick running, you dont know if i can run or not, but that doesnt matter, becuase you are unable to run, just like in california, where almost NO ONE can carry a gun legally, therefore those who have a gun, legally or not, it doesnt matter, know that the chances of them getting shot while commiting a crime is almost 0, every single damn time. why do you think these assholes rob stores and indaviduals and not armord vans and safe houses? think about that.

oh, and next time you want to call someone ignorant or underaged based on no evidence, think again.

dont turn this into an argument based on character just becuase you cant win it as an argument based on facts, thats the first rule of law, BUDDY, YOU must not know the system that well.....

[shahe]

LOL, where do you get your information? As if the 'criminals' all hang out together and converse about who not to mug.

"Guns will always serve as a deterrent to criminals. Professors James Wright and Peter Rossi surveyed over 1,800 prisoners across the nation in regards to their fears about encountering armed Victims .

- 34% of all "handgun predators" that were surveyed had encountered an armed victim that prevented them from committing their crime.
- 40% of those surveyed said that, at some point, they chose not to commit a certain crime for fear of an armed Victim
- 74% said that burglars avoid occupied dwellings because they fear getting shot
- 81% said that a "smart criminal" will make an attempt to find out if their victim is armed."

http://www.duke.edu/~gnsmith/articles/myths.htm

"Between 1977 and 1992, ten states established "right to carry" laws. (13) These laws state that anyone who meets certain criteria, may be issued a permit to carry a concealed weapon with them.

According to Lott's study, the 10 states that adopted these laws between 1977 and 1992 experienced.

-7% fewer aggravated assaults
-8% fewer murders
-5% fewer rapes
-0.5% more accidental deaths
-no change in suicide rates "

http://justfacts.com/gun_control.htm

nice to see someone with a brain :)

[Jordan]

I wanna be a professional executioner. That would be sweet. How much does one get paid to killed people? IE flip the switch, pull the trigger, tie the noose, stab the needle, dump the gas etc

[808BMW]

....hell, if I was ever homeless (which I will never be) I would rather be in jail with food clothes and shelter, rather than being free on the streets to live miserably.

Either your Hawaiian prisons are like old-people resorts or you don't know anyone who has been incarcerated before. The worst part is the psychological torment....Its not like what you see on TV in the movies...and no I haven't been locked up ever before :P

A few of my close friends have spent time in jail, my "brother" (extremely close cousin, now lives with me) has been in and out of Boy's Homes. He said jail isn't much worse. His older brother is in jail atm, just went in a couple months ago, 30 to life. When he was around, he told me about jail. He said the local one on this island isn't even that bad, and next time he goes in (he had warrants at the time) he wants to go to the maximum security prison on another island, simply because this jail was "for pussies".

[e9nine]

....hell, if I was ever homeless (which I will never be) I would rather be in jail with food clothes and shelter, rather than being free on the streets to live miserably.

Either your Hawaiian prisons are like old-people resorts or you don't know anyone who has been incarcerated before. The worst part is the psychological torment....Its not like what you see on TV in the movies...and no I haven't been locked up ever before :P

A few of my close friends have spent time in jail, my "brother" (extremely close cousin, now lives with me) has been in and out of Boy's Homes. He said jail isn't much worse. His older brother is in jail atm, just went in a couple months ago, 30 to life. When he was around, he told me about jail. He said the local one on this island isn't even that bad, and next time he goes in (he had warrants at the time) he wants to go to the maximum security prison on another island, simply because this jail was "for pussies".

Nice to know. I am not down to judge people who simply do things and want to get locked up and think it is cool. The prison system generates revenue, There are other options to be handed down to lots of people convicted of crimes but that's another topic.

Are you talking of jail or prison here? It seems you are referring to jail and mean to say prison....sorry to be precise but it makes a difference.

[808BMW]

I meant prison.

Jail is described as just extreme boredom (A few of my friends have spent a day or 2 in jail for insurance tickets).
Prison is described as hard life, just try to stay out of trouble, make your time worthwhile (take school courses, lift weights) and watch your ass (literally).

[SickE30]

I know I am going to get flamed to hell for this. But you have to see logic behind Hitler's style of imprisonment. No logic in imprisoning jews not saying that. But his prisoners were treated like barn animals board wise. They ate 3 week old food slept in close quarters blah blah blah. They worked like hell, and when they couldn't work anymore he killed them. He didn't pay someone a lot of money to as Jordan said pull the trigger flip the switch or inject the needle. He simply had them thrown in a furnace, which in all probability served as warmth for the guards. Latino-I am not a red neck by any means. Have fun in Europe, I hope you come home really soon so I can hear you insult the country that pays your check and the people that you envy. We "rednecks". Riiight.

[Charlie]

I know I am going to get flamed to hell for this. But you have to see logic behind Hitler's style of imprisonment. No logic in imprisoning jews not saying that. But his prisoners were treated like barn animals board wise. They ate 3 week old food slept in close quarters blah blah blah. They worked like hell, and when they couldn't work anymore he killed them. He didn't pay someone a lot of money to as Jordan said pull the trigger flip the switch or inject the needle. He simply had them thrown in a furnace, which in all probability served as warmth for the guards. Latino-I am not a red neck by any means. Have fun in Europe, I hope you come home really soon so I can hear you insult the country that pays your check and the people that you envy. We "rednecks". Riiight.

Trying to use the holocaust to bolster an argument is usually pretty bad form.
The furnaces weren't used for extermination, they were used to cremate the bodies. Most died from malnutrition.

-Charlie

[Super Eta]

Malvo need to go to hell for killing thouse poeple!!!!

[Jarvis]

I wanna be a professional executioner. That would be sweet. How much does one get paid to killed people? IE flip the switch, pull the trigger, tie the noose, stab the needle, dump the gas etc

Me too. If anyone's hiring, I'll work for $5 per axe-swing or $4 per shotgun blast + cost of the shell.
I really don't want my tax dollars going towards a warm bed and 3 meals a day for serial killers.

Some of you guys really need to lighten up about this.

[808BMW]

Malvo need to go to hell for killing thouse poeple!!!!

I say he already is, but that's a whole nother discussion.

[shahe]

i dont get you people, you don't send someone to prison knowing they are gonna get ass rapped. thats not how our system is supposed to work, so we dont base our punisments on it. heck, what if malvo gets locked up with a lunatic that thinks what he did was right? and now he is gonna live a free sheltered life from a monetary stand point.

besides, people with such a high profile like malvo usually get the special treatment. he will mostl;ikely never see another prisoner, he will live under 24 hour survailence with 23 hours in a cell and 1 hour in the yard, then return to the cell.

they will not let anyone kill him for a long time taking into account his age, becuase the prison systems already ahve a bad rep.

i say they should have killed him already with the death sentence. if this shit happened in texas, it would be over.