Need the help of R3V - Amputee Driving a Clutch

[Vtec?lol]

With all due respect, your head is up your ass.



No, you are wrong.

You quite possibly could find a motorcycle M/C thats moves enough fluid but it will be anything but "minimal hand effort". A hydraulic master and slave system is just simple leverage and there is no free leverage!

Think about pushing your clutch pedal with your hand, it has to move several inches and is hard to push. Wanna make it easier to push? Now you have to push the lever (pedal) even farther. As a side effect you just lost all your "feel" of the engagement point because it is so broad now.

which is why Motorcycle MC's are made the way they are since there is no free leverage..
Clearly it's not as simple as it's written.

[LJ851]

^Yes, it is.

[DaveSmed]

which is why Motorcycle MC's are made the way they are since there is no free leverage..
Clearly it's not as simple as it's written.

Care to explain how motorcycle MCs are made that would make them work so well in this application?

I'm all ears.

EDIT: Here's some help, it looks like the 'busa MC is 14mm.

[freeride53]

Why so mad at parents? Your parents only want what's best for you, no matter how shitty it may sound. Hell, I'm legally an adult, own my own car, but my father didn't want me to bring the car down with me to college because he thought that it'd be a "distraction." As much as I disagreed with this, I accepted it because I respect my dad.

It's definitely doable though.

[5Toes]

How do my parents know what is best for me though?? Not trying to turn this that direction though

This hydraulics conversation is very interesting. If anybody can prove a way to use a motorcycle m/c.. I am all ears

[Edev]

How do my parents know what is beat dlr.me though??

This hydraulics conversation is very interesting. If anybody can prove a way to use a motorcycle m/c.. I am all ears

Sigh.

[5Toes]

Fixed my phones autocorrect errors, lol

[camshaftgsxr]

This hydraulics conversation is very interesting. If anybody can prove a way to use a motorcycle m/c.. I am all ears

the motorcycle master cyl wont push enough fluid to disengage the clutch, sorry but it wont.

and if it would the amount of movement is directly proportional to the amount of pressure you will have to apply. so if you had one that would move enough fluid it would either be hard as piss to squeeze or have to move a very long way.

the only way to make it work is by having a master that is very short throw but have enough leverage to make it easy, hence forcing a long throw.

thats why the clutch pedal move 10 inches and the master only move 1-2. and its still stiff to operate.

that idea just wont work in practice. (or theory)

[5Toes]

I understand that, but others discussed hydraulic reducers, etc. just curious to hear what they have to say

[camshaftgsxr]

I understand that, but others discussed hydraulic reducers, etc. just curious to hear what they have to say

the amount of movement is directly proportional to the amount of force it takes to move the object. its liquid leverage.

your best bet is to practice with a clutch car and see if you can learn to work it.

[5Toes]

I did relatively good with the stick. First time ever really driving a clutch (getting out of first gear that is). I had to think really hard about the shifting, but thats because it was all so alien to me.

I can see it working fine in the future. The biggest problem was making sure the stick was on the pedal, but my ball joint idea will fix that.

[camshaftgsxr]

I did relatively good with the stick. First time ever really driving a clutch (getting out of first gear that is). I had to think really hard about the shifting, but thats because it was all so alien to me.

I can see it working fine in the future. The biggest problem was making sure the stick was on the pedal, but my ball joint idea will fix that.

you sound like you did better than me the first time i drove a stick

[OniKyan]

You're using a stick to press the clutch in while changing gears, presumably with the other hand ? So, does this mean you're taking both hands off the wheel to change gears? Sounds pretty dangerous.

[5Toes]

^ yeah that is the only problem... have to take both hands off the wheel. But if you shift fast enough, you only have a hand off the wheel for a split second.

Mid corner on a race track this would be bad, but on the street, not so much

Yup I only killed it once my first time.. not too bad

[camshaftgsxr]

you could always have a lever beside the shifter that will lock in the disengaged position and operate the clutch. just lock it back, choose a gear and let it out all with one hand. yeah itll be slow but you could get faster at it and it solves the leverage problem.