Plastic Bumpers + Small Tail Lights = Possible?

[325ix]

Small tails+high arches+Euro bumpers=win

Plastics on an early are ok too ;)

[M-technik-3]

mmmmm they should've came like this from factory.

how's this?

[Ryann]

Small tails+high arches+Euro bumpers=win

Plastics on an early are ok too ;)

I agree.

[der affe]

Have you ever hung a new qtr panel on a car before?

You need to go all the way to the door, drill out the spot welds on the pinch weld and go from there. By sectioning the qtr panel where you want to, you are creating more work for yourself.

Go on realoem and look at a factory full panel and that is where you should section it.

If it has damage on both sides, just get the whole back half of the car and section it into the parts you will need at home then throw the rest away AFTER you are done.

Trust me, I have done this hundereds of times.

[nebulous123]

Small tails+high arches+Euro bumpers=win

Plastics on an early are ok too ;)

Bi-WINNING!! That looks good...love the alpinas.

how's this?

looks clean, and that would prob be easier just to get a aftermarket bumper and not have to worry about all the extra mods. but i do like the stock bumper. where is that kit from, looks nice with the skirts.

Have you ever hung a new qtr panel on a car before?

You need to go all the way to the door, drill out the spot welds on the pinch weld and go from there. By sectioning the qtr panel where you want to, you are creating more work for yourself.

Go on realoem and look at a factory full panel and that is where you should section it.

If it has damage on both sides, just get the whole back half of the car and section it into the parts you will need at home then throw the rest away AFTER you are done.

Trust me, I have done this hundereds of times.

its not that I dont believe you, and I actually did look at realoem to see if it did come off at the door or not. my grandpa has been doing body work for 50+ years and that was his suggestion not mine. the man is a autobody genius so I trust him when he says, "don't worry about it we will get it to work." I obviously have seen his work first hand, and i agree that its prob more work than going all the way to the door, but we are going to have the cut the c-pillar at some point and I think he wants to avoid that. but thats my guess.

thanks guys

[Balleristic31]

Honestly I'm not in love with the early tails+plastic bumper combo. I really like the big tails and licence plate holder area, compared to early models.

[325ix]

Bi-WINNING!! That looks good...love the alpinas.



looks clean, and that would prob be easier just to get a aftermarket bumper and not have to worry about all the extra mods. but i do like the stock bumper. where is that kit from, looks nice with the skirts.

That last one is euro bumpers with an Mtech 1 kit. They are hard to come by and not cheap. I don't suggest getting a rep of any body piece as they are generally wavy and don't fit right.

[Kershaw]

junk the e30 and buy another one...

[Hick]

Early model w/ early tails + late rear valance + plastic bumpers = WIN

- dinky exhaust pipe = FAIL ;)

[der affe]

The correct way will required filler only on the c pillar where you make the splice andba heat sleeve for under the splice if you are going to TIG it to protect the defrost wires. If you are going to MIG it and want to do it the SCAR approved way you will need a backer under the c pillar seam.

It is most likely that he wants to avoid removing the rear qtr and rear glass to do it correctly. A little more work, but a better end result and a longer lasting repair.

I can show you pics of the pass side qtr panel on my car. At some point it had a qtr replacement that was sectioned in the middle. The filler is cracking and lifting now. I fan say it is a combo of a poor repair and probably some body flex from driving the car hard.

When you section a large panel like that, at a mid point with no support, it will flex at or near the splice. From.welding the surrounding metal will be more brittle on either side of the weld. This makes it more prone to cracking.
When you section it mid way you also will need to "float" the panel to fix any warpage from welding it..........adding filler over a large area to gradually blend out the low spot.

Not bagging on your grand fathers skills, but I have been doing this for 17+ years. There is a right way and a quick and easy way. The latter will usually effect the longevity of the repair.

[nebulous123]

The correct way will required filler only on the c pillar where you make the splice andba heat sleeve for under the splice if you are going to TIG it to protect the defrost wires. If you are going to MIG it and want to do it the SCAR approved way you will need a backer under the c pillar seam.

It is most likely that he wants to avoid removing the rear qtr and rear glass to do it correctly. A little more work, but a better end result and a longer lasting repair.

I can show you pics of the pass side qtr panel on my car. At some point it had a qtr replacement that was sectioned in the middle. The filler is cracking and lifting now. I fan say it is a combo of a poor repair and probably some body flex from driving the car hard.

When you section a large panel like that, at a mid point with no support, it will flex at or near the splice. From.welding the surrounding metal will be more brittle on either side of the weld. This makes it more prone to cracking.
When you section it mid way you also will need to "float" the panel to fix any warpage from welding it..........adding filler over a large area to gradually blend out the low spot.

Not bagging on your grand fathers skills, but I have been doing this for 17+ years. There is a right way and a quick and easy way. The latter will usually effect the longevity of the repair.

I am all for cutting that whole rear section of the car from door to door. where or how far up the c-pillar would you go up? and if i did do door to door could i get it from a late model? or would it not match up?

[der affe]

Cut from the middle of the thresh hold plate and go straight across the floor to the other side. Do the same for the roof.

I will give you a better answer on how to strip it down when I get home and to a computer.

[nebulous123]

Cut from the middle of the thresh hold plate and go straight across the floor to the other side. Do the same for the roof.

I will give you a better answer on how to strip it down when I get home and to a computer.

Did you just say to cut the car in half and weld another half to it? I will wait till you get home to better explain, cus if I was forced into that situation I would just get rid of this car.

Thanks

[Jalves619]

[der affe]

No, with out a frame table, you will screw things up badly. You are going to dress down the parts you need off of it then discard the rest after you have finished the job.

Still sitting at the hand surgeons office. When I can type on my lap top at home I will get more detailed.