SUBAROYDA or TOYBARU or whatever its called, its finally out

[brutus87]

Cant wait to see the Subie version in person!

[Nsquared97]

Leave it to e30 owners to nit pick about everything. I for one am happy that there is finally a cheap RWD car with good handling characteristics.

Totally agree. Hell on paper, there are a lot of similar specs between E30's and this car.

New video of the BRZ (Subaru's variant)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eP3SR1m_aRY

[DuMa]

Totally agree. Hell on paper, there are a lot of similar specs between E30's and this car.

New video of the BRZ (Subaru's variant)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=eP3SR1m_aRY

just saw that. the BRZ > FT86/FRS for sure. i love the blue!

[DuMa]

BRZ detailed pics.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2461

[DuMa]

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1111_2011_tokyo_motor_show_subaru_brz_first_look/#ixzz1f9xME5P6

Subaru will initially offer the BRZ in two trim levels: Premium and Limited. The BRZ Premium will cost about the same as a base Impreza WRX and come standard with the aforementioned Torsen limited-slip diff, navigation, Bluetooth, iPod compatibility, and HID headlights. Subaru wasn't clear on pricing or features for the BRZ Limited, but it's safe to assume it will come standard with extras that are optional on the BRZ Premium, like the leather-Alcantara seats, foglights, dual-auto HVAC controls, keyless access, and pushbutton start.

[E30SPDFRK]

Leave it to e30 owners to nit pick about everything. I for one am happy that there is finally a cheap RWD car with good handling characteristics.

It's not nit-picking, the whole thing is ugly. The only good looking part of that car is the spec sheet. The rear looks like Chevy trying to draw a Z4 Mcoupe, the front looks like an angry lizard, the front fender peaks were an afterthought, the rear fender peak looks lower than the front, it has fake vents and pointless curves everywhere and the rear 3/4 view looks like an Opel GT.

I was thinking about picking up one of these the whole time up until I saw the final design. For some of us, good performance can't outweigh an ugly design.

[SpecM]

I think it looks pretty cool, I'd drive it

[Vegas227]

The 2010 Supra concept looked a lot like this... Maybe thats what they did..

[rich4rdee]

what about the scion frs version as seen at sema. I thought it looked pretty sweet in person. Is the US getting the FRS or a re badged FT86?

this. too aggressive for the average consumer i guess?

can't wait to see one of these fitted with a snail, wheels, and moar low.

[Nsquared97]

^Now that is sick. Looks so much cleaner without the goofy vent below the A-pillar.

[DuMa]

FR-S revealed on their website

http://www.frs-scion.com/images/

looks more like GT-86 in terms of front bumper and headlights. different grills and no fogs.
it looks like headlights and climate controls look cheaper than the BRZ and GT86 counterparts. no push start and im betting no HIDs standard. so in the USA, its looking like the BRZ is the high spec model. while the FR-S is the bottom spec car.

but they showed us a pic of the rear seats laying down flat! this is what i wanted to see for my snowboard.

http://c819941.r41.cf2.rackcdn.com/media-images-fullscreen-08.jpg

[CrusherCurtis]

I want to finally chime in on this car. As driving enthusiast in today's world of crossovers, hybrids, 1.4 liter 40 mpg cars we are not hard to impress. Light weight, traditional manual transmission, rear wheel drive and decent power and good portion of use are sold. I'm most impressed with the fact that it has a lower center of gravity than the italia (but the comes with a boxer engine).

This car is all Subaru. Not codeveloped like they'ed have you believe. Toyota paid Subaru to develop a car that would compete with the likes of the MX5, Hyundai genesis 370 etc. It really echo's the times when you consider the mighty Toyota went to go t one of their Japanese rivals for help.

What disappoints me is that they are releasing it as almost the exact same car. There not even sister companies. They look far to similar and neither scream Subaru or Toyota (probably a good thing for Toyota). I'm really disappointed at Subaru. Initially there's was supposed to be AWD but at this point they've announced that the engine placement is to far rearward to allow it. There also claiming that they can't turbo it for an sti version, but I don't believe that for one second. I just hope Subaru comes up with a nice sti version, to set it part.

Just a few of my thoughts

[trackjunkie21]

There also claiming that they can't turbo it for an sti version, but I don't believe that for one second.

I heard quite the opposite, They designed it around the ej25t engine so that it drops right in;)

[tg318is]

I loved the Scion concept when I first saw it and as far as concept-to-production models go, it's everything we should have expected. These cars could be very nice with a few tasteful mods.

[ill4noreason]

http://jalopnik.com/5864045/scion-fr+s-first-live-photos-and-details