I want a motorcycle!! Need advice!!

[e30BMart]

That sentence is full of the reasons why you don't need a bike that has a power-weight ratio close to a Ferarri Enzo. Pull you head out of your fucking ass and take the advice you asked for. If you had years of experience on ANY 2-wheeled machine and could control yourself, then fine. However judging by your statement, you will be dead quick. DEAD, as in that place you were before you were born. That 600 will accelerate so fast that your lack of experience can easily mis-judge your braking space.

I'm not saying that I hope you wreck, I pray you don't. This is my brutally honest opinion. Inexperienced riders die all the time on motorcycles that surpass their capabilities. This is a fact, don't be so arrogant to think it won't happen to you. I'm sorry if I come off strong, but I have lost many friends in the past years, one who was pushing himself too far on "just a 600." This guy had a good head on his shoulders too, all the top-dollar gear couldn't save him from fatal head trauma when he hit a tree head on after a case of target fixation.

Don't know what target fixation is? Look it up, it is real, and it kills too.

Quoted again so that you will read your own words and hopefully see the lack of maturity needed for the motorcycle you want.



Why are you so confident that you can handle a 600 when you have never even been on a motorcycle? You also admit you are a show off. I said in an earlier post that if you can control your EGO, you would be ok. You just said you can't control it.


This will end in tears with that attitude.

i understand what you mean, and I asked for opinions so I dont think your coming off strong, im glad your being honest. This is a big decision.

However what I meant by showoffy came off wrong, I control myself in any situation, have proved it over and over. Which is why my mother has nothing against me getting a motorcycle, i mean sure she worries, but she IS my mom :p.

I only showoff when I know I have the skills to pull it off effortlessly and safely, for everyone around. For entertainements sake.

And sure looking cool Is a factor in the purchase of any sportbike, but the thing I look to find in this is the joy of riding, feeling free and one with my surroundings, more then that I get while driving inside a box. These are my goals.

I understand how dangerous a 600 is or can be, and I assure you buying a 250 ninja is an option. Plates are cheaper aswell (353 instead of 1100) and the bike would be 3000-3500 for 2010 instead of 5000 for a 2003. I just think that ill get tired of the 250 very quickly, as I am a quick learner. But i guess the 250 would be the smarter choice.

All of your comments are appreciated! Im that much closer to making my decision! PS: That GTi is SICK

[E30_pilot]

As people have mentioned a Suzuki sv650 is a great bike also consider a honda hawk.
They are becoming popular and starting to reach cult status and its a honda!

My hawk:




Before u go buy a bike go to stores and sit on some of them. See how comfy you are on the bike.
Leran and get comfortable on riding first before you go out buying a trendy looking bike then lowsiding it. A friend of mine has a 600rr. awesome looking bike, but he never rides it. Only seen him ride it once.
Get a bike to learn on first, and one you wouldnt be afraid to drop because we all have dropped our bikes and so will you. So after you racked up enough experience to buy a nice 600rr get a easy rider.
Oh and heres a tip, if you cant EASILY touch the ground with your feet or tip toes while sitting on the bike you probably shouldnt buy it.

[Hey_You]

I started on a '01 GSXR 750. Wouldn't recommend for everyone, but if you are RESPONSIBLE and take your time getting to know your bike, you can learn to handle it. I managed to put 30k miles on my bike in a little over 2 years. Next bike I will most likely get myself into some trouble as I have the bug for more power (Liter bike in my future) and I only weigh 120 so yeah, I MOVE! Most importantly, no matter what bike you get, make sure it has FRESH TIRES! Also, a GOOD HELMET and GOOD LEATHER GLOVES! As everyone else has stated, SV650's are also great bikes, as are Yamaha's FZR 600's (if you would prefer a slightly more relaxed riding position.)

[bowtie2bimmer]

I just think that ill get tired of the 250 very quickly, as I am a quick learner.

Ok while I'll admit its not speed demon the 250 has its place.

I have ridden everythin g you cant think of, gsxr600/750/1000, cbr600/1000/f2/f3/f4i/rr, r6/r1, zx6/10/12/14, bmw r1200, ducati 999, 996, 1098, 748, hypermotard 1100, aprilia rsv.... etc, etc, etc

AND I STILL WANT A EX250 FOR A TRACK BIKE!

Whats that tell you

[smooth]

I don't ride bikes. My dad has his whole life and my uncle did for his short life. My girlfriend wants one but I've convinced her to give a bicycle at least a year until she can learn the harsh reality that cars protect from other drivers more often than your own...inexperience.

In any case, my dad taught me to drive my car and he taught me to drive it in a way that a biker learns to ride and I attribute those lessons to my never having been in an accident.

I'm not posting to try and talk a kid who doesn't have very much time in a car let alone a bike not to get one. I just want to point out that your inexperience should be the least of your concerns. The problem is that you can't control the other 99% of the drivers on the road.

To them, you're at best an inconvenience and at worst, as others posted, invisible. Those guys don't mean you're invisible in a cool way...not like some ghost rider or riding like the wind. They mean cars can't and often won't see you. They can't see you because of the design of a car and they won't see you because they don't know they can't and won't bother to check.

So whether you're unlucky like my uncle and snap your neck on a tree or lucky like my dad and an EMT happens to be having a snack across the street from where you go down and can run across the road and cut you open and palpitate your heart until the medivac shows up it doesn't matter. My dad's still riding 40 years afterwards and more power to him. Some people don't care about dying and that's a fact, too. But they couldn't control the drivers who hit them and neither will you be able to.

So if you're intent on gambling against the odds (those odds dictating your insurance rates, licensing fees, and health/life insurance policies), then at least do yourself one favor and get a buddy to sit on a bike every inch of your car while you watch for all the places he disappears. Do it while you're fiddling with your radio, with your phone, while you're picking your nose. Then do it all again with the sun setting in your eyes, the sun gone, and in the pouring rain.

Then when you're done with all that imagine yourself late for work, just generally pissed off in traffic, and compounded by the fact that some people get to drive up the middle of the lane, and basically wondering just who the fuck let these "toys" on the road and recognizing that if you hit one they don't present much danger to you anyway...

because that's what you need to do to understand how motorists "see" you.
That's what my father did to me before he let me drive. I've taught about five people to drive like that, so at least I can say you're reasonably safe from a handful of people on the streets. But past that I wouldn't count on it. Even so, I've still had a couple close calls with bikes...and I'm in a topless car!

It's very difficult to get outside of one's teenage brain and into someone else's shoes. That's just the stage of human development you're in right now. But your ability to weight the dice in your favor depends more on your ability to understand how motorists "see" you and less on how you "see" yourself.

[camshaftgsxr]

it boils down to one thing, http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151947

http://zach-smith.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/663513road_rash1.jpg

[InuFaye]

I don't ride bikes. My dad has his whole life and my uncle did for his short life. My girlfriend wants one but I've convinced her to give a bicycle at least a year until she can learn the harsh reality that cars protect from other drivers more often than your own...inexperience.

In any case, my dad taught me to drive my car and he taught me to drive it in a way that a biker learns to ride and I attribute those lessons to my never having been in an accident.

I'm not posting to try and talk a kid who doesn't have very much time in a car let alone a bike not to get one. I just want to point out that your inexperience should be the least of your concerns. The problem is that you can't control the other 99% of the drivers on the road.

To them, you're at best an inconvenience and at worst, as others posted, invisible. Those guys don't mean you're invisible in a cool way...not like some ghost rider or riding like the wind. They mean cars can't and often won't see you. They can't see you because of the design of a car and they won't see you because they don't know they can't and won't bother to check.

So whether you're unlucky like my uncle and snap your neck on a tree or lucky like my dad and an EMT happens to be having a snack across the street from where you go down and can run across the road and cut you open and palpitate your heart until the medivac shows up it doesn't matter. My dad's still riding 40 years afterwards and more power to him. Some people don't care about dying and that's a fact, too. But they couldn't control the drivers who hit them and neither will you be able to.

So if you're intent on gambling against the odds (those odds dictating your insurance rates, licensing fees, and health/life insurance policies), then at least do yourself one favor and get a buddy to sit on a bike every inch of your car while you watch for all the places he disappears. Do it while you're fiddling with your radio, with your phone, while you're picking your nose. Then do it all again with the sun setting in your eyes, the sun gone, and in the pouring rain.

Then when you're done with all that imagine yourself late for work, just generally pissed off in traffic, and compounded by the fact that some people get to drive up the middle of the lane, and basically wondering just who the fuck let these "toys" on the road and recognizing that if you hit one they don't present much danger to you anyway...

because that's what you need to do to understand how motorists "see" you.
That's what my father did to me before he let me drive. I've taught about five people to drive like that, so at least I can say you're reasonably safe from a handful of people on the streets. But past that I wouldn't count on it. Even so, I've still had a couple close calls with bikes...and I'm in a topless car!

It's very difficult to get outside of one's teenage brain and into someone else's shoes. That's just the stage of human development you're in right now. But your ability to weight the dice in your favor depends more on your ability to understand how motorists "see" you and less on how you "see" yourself.

This is a great post.