325is versus late model 325i 'sport'?

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  • mikeb23ft
    Grease Monkey
    • Jan 2012
    • 390

    #1

    325is versus late model 325i 'sport'?

    What are the big differences between the two? I have an '88 is which has sport seats, an mtech 1 wheel, 'mtech' badged struts, limited slip, basketweaves, and a trunk spoiler. Presumably it also came with an is front lip but that's gone. Does a late model 'sport' also have all of this stuff?

    What percentage of late model 'sports' came with the m-tech 2 body kit?

    Is there an easy way to identify a late model sport car for certain?
  • Turf1600
    R3V OG
    • Nov 2006
    • 9815

    #2
    IIRC the 91+ sport cars came with all of the same options in addition to side skirts.

    Don't mix mtech and sport - they aren't the same thing. However, aus market is cars came with the tech 2 appearance package.
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    • SA E30
      E30 Fanatic
      • Feb 2004
      • 1248

      #3
      So did the British 325i "Sport" , and our South African 325iS (but that also came with other bits as has been discussed to death... re M3 suspension, 2.7lt Alpina engine)

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      • akorcovelos
        E30 Enthusiast
        • Dec 2006
        • 1149

        #4
        I thought the south african 'IS' came with an S14 in them?

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        • mikeb23ft
          Grease Monkey
          • Jan 2012
          • 390

          #5
          So in America it would actually be possible to find a car with Mtech 2 side skirts that wasn't a factory sport? Mtech 2 with comfort seats and an open diff on bottlecaps? Weird.

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          • S62
            Wrencher
            • Nov 2011
            • 262

            #6
            Originally posted by akorcovelos
            I thought the south african 'IS' came with an S14 in them?
            Aren't you referring to the 320is which was only sold in Italy and Portugal?

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            • reelizmpro
              R3V OG
              • Dec 2003
              • 9447

              #7
              Originally posted by mikeb23ft
              So in America it would actually be possible to find a car with Mtech 2 side skirts that wasn't a factory sport? Mtech 2 with comfort seats and an open diff on bottlecaps? Weird.
              No way. Not fitted from the factory. In 91 they stopped making 325iS models and had the 325i with optional sport package. The only thing really distinct about it are the "iS" side skirts. M Tech 2 has nothing to do with this model. Only e30 M technics the US got were full M tech2 convertibles and appearance packages.
              "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

              85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
              88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
              89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
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              • mikeb23ft
                Grease Monkey
                • Jan 2012
                • 390

                #8
                Originally posted by reelizmpro
                No way. Not fitted from the factory. In 91 they stopped making 325iS models and had the 325i with optional sport package. The only thing really distinct about it are the "iS" side skirts. M Tech 2 has nothing to do with this model. Only e30 M technics the US got were full M tech2 convertibles and appearance packages.
                Okay, so they made an IS model until 90? Mtech appearance package isn't important to me but I want my next car to be a late model sport/is with plastic bumpers. The designation 'is' isn't important either, but I want to make sure I get all of the performance goodies.

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                • MR 325
                  Moderator
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 37825

                  #9
                  Yes the 325iS was 1987-1990 for the E30. There's no performance benefit to the iS over the regular i other than the LSD differential which is easily swapped out.
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                  • akorcovelos
                    E30 Enthusiast
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 1149

                    #10
                    Originally posted by S62
                    Aren't you referring to the 320is which was only sold in Italy and Portugal?
                    You may be right. For some reason I remember it being a south africa model though.

                    Originally posted by MR 325
                    Yes the 325iS was 1987-1990 for the E30. There's no performance benefit to the iS over the regular i other than the LSD differential which is easily swapped out.
                    Didn't the 'is' have larger rear sway bar, and slightly higher spring rates? Doesn't really matter, the "sport" goodies are still garbage compared to even moderate upgrades most people are going to do anyway.

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                    • slammin.e28
                      שמע ישראל
                      • May 2010
                      • 12054

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MR 325
                      Yes the 325iS was 1987-1990 for the E30. There's no performance benefit to the iS over the regular i other than the LSD differential which is easily swapped out.
                      Not all IS cars had an LSD. It was an option from the factory the original owner had to "check the box" for.
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                      • M-technik-3
                        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 18946

                        #12
                        iS cars got the diff, That was part of the package. Non iS had a block to option one in if they didn't want the suspension and wheels and seats and front and rear spoilers.

                        This is kinda why there was so much hopla when the iS was reintroduced for the E9X series.
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                        • TimKninja
                          R3VLimited
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 2131

                          #13
                          The 325is came with an LSD.

                          On the 318is it was optional.
                          1985 325e M50TU(Sold)
                          1991 318is Slicktop (Sold)
                          1990 325is Brilliantrot S50/5 Lug Swapped.
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                          • reelizmpro
                            R3V OG
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 9447

                            #14
                            Originally posted by akorcovelos
                            You may be right. For some reason I remember it being a south africa model though.



                            Didn't the 'is' have larger rear sway bar, and slightly higher spring rates? Doesn't really matter, the "sport" goodies are still garbage compared to even moderate upgrades most people are going to do anyway.
                            He's right, it was the Italian 320iS powered by a S14B20 2.0 liter because they couldn't get the M3. It had to do with paying more taxes for higher displacement engines or something.
                            "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

                            85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
                            88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
                            89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
                            91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER

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                            • slammin.e28
                              שמע ישראל
                              • May 2010
                              • 12054

                              #15
                              Originally posted by M-technik-3
                              iS cars got the diff, That was part of the package. Non iS had a block to option one in if they didn't want the suspension and wheels and seats and front and rear spoilers.

                              This is kinda why there was so much hopla when the iS was reintroduced for the E9X series.
                              Originally posted by TimKninja
                              The 325is came with an LSD.

                              On the 318is it was optional.
                              Okay. I knew that 535is car didn't always have an LSD. I've got 3 535i and a 535is, all have LSD diffs, years from 11/84 to 1988. It was pretty arbitrary for e28s. Figured the same for e30s.

                              Also, we pulled the diff from my friend's car and it was not an LSD in his 1989 325is. We were sorely disappointed as he had stated that IS cars came with one. Must have been swapped at some point, but IDK why someone would go to an open diff, especially the PO who worked at a shop and kept the car in great condition.
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