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  • 91Saleen#15
    Wrencher
    • Mar 2006
    • 230

    #1

    I hate ethanol gas

    It rusts the metal gas tanks in my e30s.....



    I fill the tank with gravel and rotate it for a few hours to knock out all the rust. Then I coat it with POR-15.
    Last edited by 91Saleen#15; 07-25-2012, 01:10 PM.
    Richard
  • VinniE30
    R3VLimited
    • May 2010
    • 2113

    #2
    I hate it too. I had one of the rubber fuel lines break on me once. Nothing you can do about it though, I don't know anywhere near me that sells ethanol-free gas.
    Someone make a plastic e30 gas tank?

    BTW your sig is badass
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    • mikeedler
      R3V OG
      • Feb 2004
      • 6707

      #3
      I would bet the rust has more to do with your tank being 20 years old, as well as the fuel lines.
      E10 doesn't other me too much.

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      • Cronopoulos
        R3VLimited
        • Jul 2011
        • 2187

        #4
        Yeah, I love E85... Cheap race gas!


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        • nrubenstein
          No R3VLimiter
          • Feb 2009
          • 3148

          #5
          Actually, the one benefit of ethanol gas is that it is likely to prevent tank rust. Ethanol free gas causes the water accumulated from condensation to settle out on the bottom of the tank. Naturally this leads to rust. Ethanol gas, on the other hand, will absorb water. This tends to keep the tank clean.

          The big reason why the transition to E10 was such a pain in the ass was that gas stations and many cars had a ton of water in their tanks. If it wasn't vacuumed out, well, the gas would mix instead of floating on top. That is why there were so many fuel pump failures during the transition period.

          There are lots of reasons why e-gas sucks, but rusting the tank isn't one of them.
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          • Ryann
            No R3VLimiter
            • Mar 2010
            • 3350

            #6
            Pure-gas.org is the definitive web site listing stations that sell pure gasoline in the U.S. and Canada.

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            • slammin.e28
              שמע ישראל
              • May 2010
              • 12054

              #7
              We got ethanol free gas here. Hello awesome fuel economy, better power, and overall a happier car. It's usually about the same price as shit gas too.
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              • InuFaye
                R3VLimited
                • May 2010
                • 2221

                #8
                the government shouldn't tell me what I can use for gasoline.
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                • slammin.e28
                  שמע ישראל
                  • May 2010
                  • 12054

                  #9
                  Originally posted by InuFaye
                  the government shouldn't tell me what I can use for gasoline.
                  I agree with you on something political?

                  really?
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                  • InuFaye
                    R3VLimited
                    • May 2010
                    • 2221

                    #10
                    Originally posted by slammin.e28guy
                    I agree with you on something political?

                    really?
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                    • 91Saleen#15
                      Wrencher
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 230

                      #11
                      Originally posted by nrubenstein
                      Actually, the one benefit of ethanol gas is that it is likely to prevent tank rust. Ethanol free gas causes the water accumulated from condensation to settle out on the bottom of the tank. Naturally this leads to rust. Ethanol gas, on the other hand, will absorb water. This tends to keep the tank clean.

                      The big reason why the transition to E10 was such a pain in the ass was that gas stations and many cars had a ton of water in their tanks. If it wasn't vacuumed out, well, the gas would mix instead of floating on top. That is why there were so many fuel pump failures during the transition period.

                      There are lots of reasons why e-gas sucks, but rusting the tank isn't one of them.
                      Sorry, but i don't believe that. I have about 14 e30s sitting around, and any that have ethanol gas in them for any length of time start to rust. The ones that haven't run since ethanol became prevalent still have rust free tanks.
                      Richard

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                      • Click
                        Mod Crazy
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 637

                        #12
                        Hydrocarbons are non polar, water is polar. Alcohol has a hydroxy group on it which makes it polar. Like dissolves in like, you mix oil and water and they separate, you mix water and alcohol they become one. Vodka is 40% alcohol and the rest water, there are no separate layers. Therefore it will absorb water sitting on the bottom of the tank but at the same time it will always contain water itself.
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                        • evandael
                          R3VLimited
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 2881

                          #13
                          91Saleen, please tell me more about how you clean out those tanks.

                          I'm going to remove mine shortly to fix a dent where the jack slipped (thanks PO), and among other things, I'd like to POR it.

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                          • rustybullet
                            Wrencher
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 218

                            #14
                            I have a few gas stations in my town that sells ethanol free gas.

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                            • 91Saleen#15
                              Wrencher
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 230

                              #15
                              Originally posted by evandael
                              91Saleen, please tell me more about how you clean out those tanks.

                              I'm going to remove mine shortly to fix a dent where the jack slipped (thanks PO), and among other things, I'd like to POR it.

                              I welded a frame onto my cement mixer and bungy corded the tank to it. Then I threw a couple of handfuls of bolts into the tank and let them bounce around for a couple of hours. The I wash the rust out with a power washer. The bolts knock all the loose rust off, and then the por-15 covers the rest.
                              Richard

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