A thought on "stance"

[ramielm]

When did the "stance" revolution become a revolution?

Although I've always been a believer in the philosophy of "to each his own," but I want to know what the infatuation is with touching the ground, and destroying your handling. I started out in the car scene at 17 years old in 2005 with my A4 1.8t and I don't remember there ever being an obsession with being ineffectively low. I've been out of the culture for a few years, but "back then" everyone strived for a nice ride height that eliminated fender gap but didn't adversely effect handling.

Granted, there was a niché for the euro vw guys, mini trucks and lowriders; I don't ever remember it being this vast. Is it something that I never noticed, or is it relatively new?

What do you guys think, is it a passing fad or has it always been here and I never noticed. I'm only 23 but I feel old as heck, it's just something I don't understand...kind of like dub-step.

[Roysneon]

[frankenbeemer]

It has gained momentum as more people wear their hats backwards and their pants below their buttocks. I say, good for them.

[achtung911]

Sup bro

[spike68]

I would necessarily call the stance scene a fad. Stanceworks has been around for a while and it seems to have pretty consistent activity. Its popular because of its form. You know when you hear form>function, or function>form. Its an endless battle between the two, but when it comes down to it, its what YOU like best. Personally Im a stance guy. Im in no need to be driving fast and taking corners at high speed. I like to cruise and people necks while I drive down the road. So in essence, I dont need all the handling. And each style has its ups and downs. Stance has harsher ride quality, scrubbing fenders and frames. More funtional cars can also have harsh rides and they also may not seem to be as appealing, but like i said, it all depends on what you want your car to do.

So to answer the question, no, stance is not just a fad, I think it will continue on. Its been around longer than you think. You know the old american cars on bags who hop up and down? Yeah, thats us. We just use more modern cars.

[ramielm]

I would necessarily call the stance scene a fad. Stanceworks has been around for a while and it seems to have pretty consistent activity. Its popular because of its form. You know when you hear form>function, or function>form. Its an endless battle between the two, but when it comes down to it, its what YOU like best. Personally Im a stance guy. Im in no need to be driving fast and taking corners at high speed. I like to cruise and people necks while I drive down the road. So in essence, I dont need all the handling. And each style has its ups and downs. Stance has harsher ride quality, scrubbing fenders and frames. More funtional cars can also have harsh rides and they also may not seem to be as appealing, but like i said, it all depends on what you want your car to do.

So to answer the question, no, stance is not just a fad, I think it will continue on. Its been around longer than you think. You know the old american cars on bags who hop up and down? Yeah, thats us. We just use more modern cars.

Nice Response :up:

[ramielm]

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[E30SPDFRK]

Honestly, I'll bet that most of the cars you consider stanced handle better than they did stock. I know mine does, and I still autocross my car.

The reason you're seeing it so much more popular is all the bandwagoner people that have hopped on since the last trend. When Mike made StanceWorks, stance got brought into the spotlight and more and more people said hey I can do this. It has been around for a long time, and while the fad-ness of it may fade away, the style will always be there.

And honestly, I think it has made the car culture as a whole a better place. Different groups of enthusiasts are now getting along where they never did before because they can share the common interest. And it has brought the quality of cars up as well; people learned to pay attention to the little things like offsets and suspension setups.

[mbonanni]

Honestly, I'll bet that most of the cars you consider stanced handle better than they did stock. I know mine does, and I still autocross my car.

The reason you're seeing it so much more popular is all the bandwagoner people that have hopped on since the last trend. When Mike made StanceWorks, stance got brought into the spotlight and more and more people said hey I can do this. It has been around for a long time, and while the fad-ness of it may fade away, the style will always be there.

And honestly, I think it has made the car culture as a whole a better place. Different groups of enthusiasts are now getting along where they never did before because they can share the common interest. And it has brought the quality of cars up as well; people learned to pay attention to the little things like offsets and suspension setups.

This.

But some people still just drop their car on JOM's or cut/heated springs and bang their fenders out to make wide wheels with skinny tires fit..

[E30SPDFRK]

I agree, but those are the bandwagon people I was talking about. It's too bad that people focus on the negatives, because there is easily just as many people that do it right as there are that do it wrong. Take a look at the builds section on StanceWorks, there is tons of really high quality projects going on over there that any true car enthusiast could appriciate.

[Rsully70sev]

I'm in the same boat. One of my first cars was a 2006 Nissan Titan with a long travel suspension. It gave me about 6-7" of lift (close to 20" of travel) and it sat on 37" tires. Never heard of stance till I got in the e30 scene.

Same as you, "to each his own" I don't hate it, but I don't entirely love it. Some of the cars are absolutely ridiculous, while some of them are simply astounding. Depends on the style of the car and the execution of it's upgrades IMO.

P.S- E30SPDFRK, your car is modified perfectly. I was actually looking at it on the bagged thread last night admiring it, this is an example of an "astounding execution" as I previously referenced.

While this is just stupid/ridiculous in my opinion...but as I said, to each his own.

[AbsorbantNut]

So you're saying that you autoX your stanced car? And I mean "stanced out", like in your signature.

[E30SPDFRK]

I usually raise it about an inch up front since the local track is kind of bumpy, but yes. My spring rates are higher and I run a lot of camber, but besides for that my suspension is very similar to what most performance people have.

[Jonny Cash]

We would use the term stance in 2001-05 as 'hey your car sits nice, like the stance' Obviously since then its gone way over the deep end.. I heard someone say the term for the first time in person recently, and its sounded pretty damn corny.

But all in all i think its good for the community to have this generation be into cars period. Good for vendors, events, shows, regardless of what people are doing to the cars.. These guys are modding, and are passionate about the cars spending every dime they earn on them.
And for the tool that Oni cambers his moms minivan, well hey at least we can get a laugh out of it..

[Holland]

I'm 23 and I don't understand Dubstep either.