How long before rebuilt engine rings seat? EDIT. Help a 1st time engine builder.

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  • brianao34
    Mod Crazy
    • Jun 2010
    • 660

    #91
    ^^Didn't slice any fingers. But I did get this bad ass compressor...

    KD Tools 850

    I will try and get a video sometime soon. I should really upload some pictures from the engine bay shave. I'll get on that

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    • brianao34
      Mod Crazy
      • Jun 2010
      • 660

      #92


      To me it sounds like a German Rubber Band.

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      • e30rapidic
        R3VLimited
        • Oct 2003
        • 2167

        #93
        right on!
        '87 325ic, powered by S50.

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        • delatlanta1281
          Dart Master
          • Mar 2006
          • 10317

          #94
          Originally posted by brianao34
          This isn't necessarily true...

          The top ring or compression ring can just be a standard flat ring like mine was with no top or bottom.

          The second ring or scraper ring from my experience always has an edge to it that must be positioned to scrape oil off the cylinder walls into the crankcase.

          And the third ring or oil control ring can either be a two piece or three piece design as commonly seen. Mine was the two piece design as shown but was missing the inner tensioning spring the first time.
          Soooo 4 rings.
          Yours truly,
          Rich
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          Originally posted by Rigmaster
          you kids get off my lawn.....

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          • delatlanta1281
            Dart Master
            • Mar 2006
            • 10317

            #95
            Originally posted by brianao34
            I'm glad my thread helped others out. It was definitely a learning process for me and you very quickly realize how many people don't know as much as they think when it comes to fine tuning and precision troubleshooting. I used to think my a close friend of mine was a Master Mechanic until we started troubleshooting this issue.
            So wait, I need cliffs now.
            Didn't your ring gyp you a ring per piston?
            I wouldn't be able to tell that without taking the motor apart either. Even a compression test could/would yield proper numbers.
            At the risk of sounding like a dick, and trust me, I'm not trying to, if I was sent a ring set and the oil ring had the spring and one ring, I would ask way more than just the shipper.
            That being said, I have some builds under my belt. Not a mistake that will happen on your next build I am sure. Car sounds great, lets see some pics.
            Ps, I understand your block was fine. I was applying your initial situation to other builds. In other builds it could have been the block. Builders need to be sure that their machinist does proper work.
            Yours truly,
            Rich
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            Originally posted by Rigmaster
            you kids get off my lawn.....

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            • Fusion
              No R3VLimiter
              • Nov 2009
              • 3658

              #96
              Seller shouldn't make a mistake like that, especially when they're specialized in rings.
              They know real well that this can happen and how much time/money is lost.

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              • delatlanta1281
                Dart Master
                • Mar 2006
                • 10317

                #97
                Originally posted by Fusion
                Seller shouldn't make a mistake like that, especially when they're specialized in this.
                They know real well that this can happen and how much time/money is lost.
                Agreed, but there are many different configurations and dummies out there. He was likely either mis communicating, or willing to risk it.
                Yours truly,
                Rich
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                Originally posted by Rigmaster
                you kids get off my lawn.....

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                • brianao34
                  Mod Crazy
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 660

                  #98
                  I don't understand you del. Haha.

                  Exhaust is Stromung E36 M3 and E36 OBDII midpipe with the "shorty" Raceland headers. Now to build an actual intake for it.

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                  • delatlanta1281
                    Dart Master
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 10317

                    #99
                    Originally posted by brianao34
                    I don't understand you del. Haha.

                    Exhaust is Stromung E36 M3 and E36 OBDII midpipe with the "shorty" Raceland headers. Now to build an actual intake for it.
                    What don't you get?
                    Your motor smoked bc it wasn't put together correctly right?
                    That won't happen again, right?

                    In hindsight, when something seems wrong, it most likely is. Instead of listening to a guy you don't know and have no reason to trust, ask people like
                    Nando
                    Jim
                    Josh
                    Matt
                    Lorin
                    Shant

                    They can't figure out what's wrong with your already assembled motor on here no matter what you post. If you asked the question before you assembled your parts, this could have been avoided right?
                    Yours truly,
                    Rich
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                    Originally posted by Rigmaster
                    you kids get off my lawn.....

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                    • brianao34
                      Mod Crazy
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 660

                      #100
                      Originally posted by delatlanta1281
                      If you asked the question before you assembled your parts, this could have been avoided right?
                      I did ask him before I assembled the engine the first time why the rings he sent me weren't exactly like the ones I sent him, he told me it was fine, and with me trusting him and not knowing enough to argue I went along with it.

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                      • delatlanta1281
                        Dart Master
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 10317

                        #101
                        Originally posted by brianao34
                        I did ask him before I assembled the engine the first time why the rings he sent me weren't exactly like the ones I sent him, he told me it was fine, and with me trusting him and not knowing enough to argue I went along with it.
                        And you're smarter for it now.
                        Yours truly,
                        Rich
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                        Originally posted by Rigmaster
                        you kids get off my lawn.....

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                        • tinkerputzer
                          E30 Addict
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 508

                          #102
                          Glad to hear you got it fixed op!

                          Who called it :p

                          Originally posted by tinkerputzer
                          That kind of oil consumption is not from a rings failing to seat but most likely oil contol ring installation problems. What kind of oil control ring set did you use?

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