Spun out in the snow today...

[dannyyisntt]

How did this turn into a dick measuring contest? Oh wait... It's R3V.
No it was not A SHIT LOAD of snow. It was just more then my piece of shit 325e could handle. All season tires with 50% tread did not belong in those conditions. If I had known it would snow I would have never taken that car up there in the first place.
When I started this thread I only wanted to point out that I was happy I saved the car and its passengers. I was not trying to make out that I am a bad as snow driving monster that eats black ice for breakfast lunch and dinner.
I was not driving like a dumb ass. I had people I cared about in the car including my 11 year old nephew. I was driving way slower then everyone and getting passed by people in huge SUVs.

Not to be a douche, but it sounds like it was more than you could handle. A good amount of driving in the snow involves the skills of the driver and knowing when to pick your battles and weather the roads. People around here don't even bother changing their tires for that amount of snow. It can be intimidating when your the cautious one on the road getting passed by suv's left and right, but just smile and know they'll get theirs when they spin out like the o'doyles.

And no, we're not special because we live in snow states, but we are knowledgeable when it comes to driving in actual poor weather. And the reason the op has been getting flamed is because he came off bragging about spinning into the incoming lane. Just picture if there had been a family driving there. You would have harmed them, yourself and your passengers. I can't count how many accidents I've encountered over the years from inexperienced winter drivers.

Be safe op and maybe take a few more classes. It never hurts to increase your skill level. I'm also sorry about your personal situation, you seem like a nice guy.

[TwoJ's]

Your location says San Francisco. You have no say in what driving in the snow is like.

I took my driving test IN the snow. I also quite often see people towing snowboarders behind their cars. The only people who chain up here are Californians and the postal service.

Congratulations... you managed to be extremely douchey in the beginning of the post, but you transitioned beautifully to being only a standard amount of douche. You're not special because it snows a little bit near where you live. A lot of people get snow.

Also, some people are not afraid to venture away from their comfort zone. I don't know you, but if I had to guess, I'd say right now you live within 10-15 miles of where you grew up. You see, some people aren't afraid to leave the nest... and sometimes that results in a person maybe living in SF when they are from somewhere else.

Sorry, the implications in your post were really annoying. Carry on.

Before people say they know how to drive in snow...here is last years for me:

e24 on the left(stock height) and my brother's vert donor on the right.

You're supposed to have a second picture of one of the cars just wiping the windshield with the wipers and driving straight out of that. You're from upstate NY, so you can do that right?

LOL generalization fail.

Must've never driven a decent AWD car.

LOL indeed. That must have been over your head for you to make such a comment. You should refrain from commenting on things like this or you'll end up looking like a dumb ass all of the time.


Ahhh, better now.

[FLG]

I know what you mean, looks like you have HID's in the front so might be triggering that one (mine occasionally goes off too). I was the same way, but it sure is nice having all the lights finally off LOL

Whats the ones on the dash? Looks like brake pad light? I could dig around....doing some cleaning and might have a spare senor or two i can throw your way?

[deutschman]

Are these pics from when you spun out? That's hardly any snow! Weak dude, slow down in bad weather.

How did this turn into a dick measuring contest? Oh wait... It's R3V.
No it was not A SHIT LOAD of snow. It was just more then my piece of shit 325e could handle. All season tires with 50% tread did not belong in those conditions. If I had known it would snow I would have never taken that car up there in the first place.
When I started this thread I only wanted to point out that I was happy I saved the car and its passengers. I was not trying to make out that I am a bad as snow driving monster that eats black ice for breakfast lunch and dinner.
I was not driving like a dumb ass. I had people I cared about in the car including my 11 year old nephew. I was driving way slower then everyone and getting passed by people in huge SUVs.

As for all the lights on the check panel and dash. Yeah it bothers the fuck out of me as well. It's like driving in a disco. Sadly I am an unemployed student living on $25 a day. No money for fixing anything other then critical functions at this point and time. Sad but true.

[FLG]

Glad you made it out without issue, now get to fixing those dash lights and check panel lights! Looks like low beam, coolant, and washer fluid? Sensors bad? Cant see what the dash ones are. Hate seeing any lights on, pet peeve i guess.

[TimKninja]

I put the E30 away for the wintar and drive my terrible Corolla.

Mainly because nobody in RI can drive to begin with. Its a shit show when it snows.

[DisgustipatedAP1]

Please, tell us how having AWD makes your tires stick better to the road when stopping. magic?

Who said anything about stopping? Just powerslide like a boss into a tree, that's a pretty quick way to stop. :giggle:

[lambo]

Hai guise



LSD, shitty all seasons and I never got stuck/spun out/r3v'd once. There's nothing better for winter driving than driving in a smart, cautious manner...

[dannyyisntt]

Please, tell us how having AWD makes your tires stick better to the road when stopping. magic?

How exactly is a rainbow made? How exactly does the sun set? How exactly does a positrack rear end on a Plymouth work? It just does.

[nando]

LOL generalization fail.

Must've never driven a decent AWD car.

Please, tell us how having AWD makes your tires stick better to the road when stopping. magic?

[DisgustipatedAP1]

Yes and no. On average, the AWD car will still have more go and be easier to drive (aka, mashing the pedal like a retard won't kick that tail out). On the other hand, the AWD car won't stop for shit on most a/s tires and it won't turn either.

LOL generalization fail.

Must've never driven a decent AWD car.

[Cletonius]

Are these pics from when you spun out? That's hardly any snow! Weak dude, slow down in bad weather.

[F34R]

Before people say they know how to drive in snow...here is last years for me:

e24 on the left(stock height) and my brother's vert donor on the right.

[10Toes]

Yes and no. On average, the AWD car will still have more go and be easier to drive (aka, mashing the pedal like a retard won't kick that tail out). On the other hand, the AWD car won't stop for shit on most a/s tires and it won't turn either.

Very little*. Which is why you see lots of SUVs overturned in ditches when it snows.

* Obviously which wheels are driven does impact the off throttle characteristics of the car.

My E30 with non studded snow tires handles, stops, and accelerates better in the snow then my A4 with All seasons did. But obviously when my A4 had winters it trumped the E30.



You lack all reading comprehension dont you?

He is saying that the tires make the difference, not the drivetrain.

I read just fine, you are a fucking idiot.

[F34R]

I laughed SO HARD from this...classes? snicker

I know alot of you have zero idea how to drive in snow or how to predict how the road will be ice or not.
I just have moved around alot and seen how people react to snow. Like they are just scared of 3" of snow, where in NY we are used to shoveling out 2-3' of snow to get to work.

RWD with a LSD and snow tires is not bad in the winter. But a light FWD is hands down better, and a AWD or 4x4 is even better. There is a thing to remember, the AWD will get you killed because you have traction to get going faster. It never changes for stopping. If the car is heavy it just slides till it hits something to stop. I say if you don't know the area drive at a safe pace. I deal with it every year and I have been driving in it for 11 years now on the road. Before that my father made me learn how to handle snow when I was 11 in a field with a beater car. I have not crashed yet due to his lessons and 40+ years of experience.

This is so true(I love seeing tourists in ditches):