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    Chrysler Group LLC may have reported its 32nd consecutive month of year-over-year sales gains in November, but sales of its all-new 2013 Dodge Dart were down almost 18 percent, raising concern about a vehicle that has so much riding on it.

    The Dart, which went on sale in August, is aimed squarely at the heart of the fast-growing compact car segment — an arena in which Chrysler has not fielded a serious contender since it pulled the plug on the Neon back in 2005. Based on the acclaimed Alfa Romeo Giulietta, it also represents the first real offspring of the marriage between Chrysler and Italy's Fiat SpA.

    Last month, Chrysler sold just 4,489 Darts, almost a thousand less than it sold in October. That is significant, because the industry as a whole reported its strongest sales in nearly five years on Monday. And that has some analysts worried.

    "It is of concern, because the small-car segment is doing very well right now — and they are missing the boat on that," said Michelle Krebs of Edmunds.com. "Their numbers should be higher. But they are establishing themselves in a space they haven't played in for some time."

    Fiat-Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne has left little doubt how important the Dart is to Chrysler's turnaround.

    "Our future hangs on how well we do here," he said after meeting with workers at the factory in Belividere, Ill., where the new car was being readied in May. "I can probably get one car wrong. Of all the cars I can get wrong, it ain't this one. This one is too visible, it's too large, it's got too much embedded into it to go wrong."

    But November's results suggest the Dart may not quite be hitting the mark. At least, not the models on dealer lots.

    One of the big things Marchionne touted about the Dart was its 100,000 buildable combinations. That level of hyper-customization is central to his strategy for Chrysler. But special-ordering a Dart can take months, and most American consumers are unwilling to wait that long. So the company and its dealers still need to guess which combinations of features and options will be most appealing.

    "We're still very much in the ramp-up mode for the Dart. We're still trying to get the right mix out there," said Dodge Brand President Reid Bigland. "But we like the spot we're in."

    That is because the Dart is selling for a lot more than its competitors.

    Last month, the average price paid for a Dart after incentives and other special offers was $22,012. Bigland said that is about $2,600 more than the average for compact cars. He suggested many of Chrysler's competitors are boosting demand for their vehicles by offering big incentives. That undercuts profitability.

    Bigland said that is precisely the sort of short-term thinking that led Chrysler to federal bankruptcy court in 2009, and it is something the born-again Chrysler wants to avoid.

    "We're not emptying the piggy bank," he said, adding that Chrysler has only been offering $500 in cash to new customers.

    That might be part of the problem, Krebs said, suggesting that Chrysler think about putting more money on the hood. That is what Ford Motor Co. did when its new compact Ford Focus got off to a rocky launch last year. And it worked. Focus sales are up 38.3 percent year-to-date; they were up 56 percent month-over-month in November.

    Rethinking the advertising might also help, Krebs said.

    The Dart's how-to ads are fun to watch and have been a hit with viewers, but Krebs said they do not talk enough about the car.

    "They're great, but I wonder if the actual Dart gets lost in the shuffle," she said. "They need to go back to the drawing board with marketing and maybe do some incentives."

    Bigland said Chrysler is upping the incentives on the Dart as part of its year-end sale, but only by $250.

    Analyst Jim Hall of 2953 Analytics LLP also has concerns about the Dart ads, but he is less worried about the pace of sales. He says Chrysler's previous owners — Daimler AG and Cerberus Capital Management LP — failed to invest in a credible replacement for the Neon even as the market was shifting in favor of small cars.

    The Dart's predecessor, the Dodge Caliber, was one of the most reviled vehicles in recent memory and convinced most consumers to look elsewhere for small cars.

    "The brand has zero consideration in the compact segment because of the Caliber, so every vehicle they sell over the Caliber is a success," Hall said. "Sergio is paying for the idiocy of Daimler and Cerberus. And there will be more of those payments that Sergio will have to make over the next few years."

    But he said Marchionne and his team have realistic expectations for the Dart.

    "Their forecasting was not gigantic for this car," Hall said. "It was not the sort of numbers that Ford would wave around. They knew this was going to be an uphill battle."
    http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...0101/212050325
    Originally posted by flyboyx
    i have watched my dog lick himself off a few times

    #2
    having said that, I've driven a Cruze and was surprised by it's drivetrain platform as a entry level GM product...

    I kind of feel for the little Dart...
    Originally posted by flyboyx
    i have watched my dog lick himself off a few times

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      #3
      dodge should have made it rear wheel drive.
      https://www.facebook.com/ehmotorsports

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        #4
        Originally posted by EH Motorsports View Post
        dodge should have made it rear wheel drive.
        BAM. I would like it if it was RWD. More of a BRZ/FR-S market car.

        ...and get the Neon-esque looks out of the damn thing.
        1974.5 Jensen Healey : 2003 330i/5

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          #5
          Originally posted by EH Motorsports View Post
          dodge should have made it rear wheel drive.
          This.
          sigpic

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            #6
            Dodge had such a great idea going on looking to appeal to the "motorist" in the past years with the offering of boosted OEM cars..

            Neon SRT/4, Caliber SRT, and even a PT Cruiser Turbo...ever see a PT Cruise run a high 11's at the track?

            I have and it's still headscratcher...

            Chrysler needs to maintain that streamline offering, and would of knocked the sales out of the park with a RWD/AWD platform with some sort of F/I...keep it under 20K and it would of beat the Cruze hands down.
            Originally posted by flyboyx
            i have watched my dog lick himself off a few times

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              #7
              The dodge brand is tainted. People just don't want to buy one.
              1986 Plymouth Horizon. Base.

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                #8
                Originally posted by InuFaye View Post
                The dodge brand is tainted. People just don't want to buy one.
                People used to say that about Hyundai....
                Originally posted by flyboyx
                i have watched my dog lick himself off a few times

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                  #9
                  the cruze is a better looking car. who ever designed the front of the dart needs to not quit their day job. but moving on. if you look at the dart's sales from even the 60s mopar has always been the 3rd runner up. so im not surprised to see such low sales figures. it has to compete is the most crowed car segment, so unless it's a mind blowing car there's no reason it should do all that well.
                  Corolla: $16230
                  Civic: $18000
                  Cruze: $17100
                  Focus: $18000
                  Forte: $15800
                  Mazda3: $16700
                  Dart: $16000
                  Much wow
                  I hate 4 doors

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                    #10
                    I dont think its that bad looking overall, for an economy car. Apparently a gutless motor is whats really hurting it.
                    Haven't you ever seen Russian Nesting Dolls? They work like that.

                    1987 325e / 2008 135i

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Mr. Burns View Post
                      People used to say that about Hyundai....
                      Hyundai didn't take a huge government loan to keep making shitty cars.
                      1986 Plymouth Horizon. Base.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Mr. Burns View Post
                        People used to say that about Hyundai....
                        I'd still buy neither.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by InuFaye View Post
                          Hyundai didn't take a huge government loan to keep making shitty cars.
                          checkmate...
                          Originally posted by flyboyx
                          i have watched my dog lick himself off a few times

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                            #14
                            What's the target audience for these? Cause I know the older crowd looks down on it. And for me, someone who is a little older and has had a older Dart. Even though they was before my time. Look at them and just see a name that Mopar should of kept dead. They should of just reused the Neon name.

                            1992 BMW 325iC
                            1978 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
                            1965 Chevrolet Corvair Monza 140hp

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by EH Motorsports View Post
                              dodge should have made it rear wheel drive.
                              You'd need to talk to Fiat/Alfa about that, not Dodge.

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