Dodge Dart sales not doing well....

[blunttech]

Originally Posted by InuFaye
The dodge brand is tainted. People just don't want to buy one.
People used to say that about Hyundai....

People used to say that about Kathy Sweeney.. But it never stopped me

[ScottyB326]

Car companies always seem to start out with an underpowered base model.

The Dart now is pretty gutless (i've driven two).

But the interior is quite nice, especially for the price range. And they're already hashing out the details for the r/t dart, which will be much more powerful, and for everyone complaining about the FWD nature, the SRT which is also on it's way is destined to be AWD and turbo charged, and they're shooting for 325 hp. Their aim is a vehicle in the sti/evo/etc arena.

[Stanley Rockafella]

the biggest mistake was thinking they could sell a "kids car" by banking on a sweet retro name that has been out of production longer than the cars target demographic has been alive.

bingo bango!!!

[rhE-30]

The bit about them not marketing correctly is spot on, I've seen dozens of dart commercials and am still not really sure what it looks like, not the out side, not the interior, not the engine bay, the trunk etc. On par with some of the for sale adds on r3v.

[lowsodium]

Its going to end up like 90% of fwd cars, Forgettable. Its just an appliance.

[slammin.e28]

But the interior is quite nice, especially for the price range. And they're already hashing out the details for the r/t dart, which will be much more powerful, and for everyone complaining about the FWD nature, the SRT which is also on it's way is destined to be AWD and turbo charged, and they're shooting for 325 hp. Their aim is a vehicle in the sti/evo/etc arena.

Fuck anything with a sideways engine up front that isn't an old Mini.

Want to do something different? Go RWD and make a fun car, again, like the BRZ/FR-S. Those things are flying off the lots and need some competition.

[nando]

Dodge had such a great idea going on looking to appeal to the "motorist" in the past years with the offering of boosted OEM cars..

Neon SRT/4, Caliber SRT, and even a PT Cruiser Turbo...ever see a PT Cruise run a high 11's at the track?

I have and it's still headscratcher...

Chrysler needs to maintain that streamline offering, and would of knocked the sales out of the park with a RWD/AWD platform with some sort of F/I...keep it under 20K and it would of beat the Cruze hands down.

those cars were fast but they were also 3 of the most horrible cars ever made. being fast isn't good enough to sell millions of cars because most people want to buy a throw away Toyota that just works.

AWD and FI for under $20k? and have it not be a total pile of steaming shit? you're dreaming.

[Pl3wA]

so the dart isnt rwd? wtf are they trying to sell?

[tjts1]

If it looks like a NEON and it stinks like a NEON it must be a...

[AntiScope]

The only crowd I can see this car appealing to is people who

A. Don't know any better
B. View driving as a chore

[Pac1373]

Fuck anything with a sideways engine up front that isn't an old Mini.

Want to do something different? Go RWD and make a fun car, again, like the BRZ/FR-S. Those things are flying off the lots and need some competition.

those cars were fast but they were also 3 of the most horrible cars ever made. being fast isn't good enough to sell millions of cars because most people want to buy a throw away Toyota that just works.

AWD and FI for under $20k? and have it not be a total pile of steaming shit? you're dreaming.

so the dart isnt rwd? wtf are they trying to sell?

If it looks like a NEON and it stinks like a NEON it must be a...

The only crowd I can see this car appealing to is people who

A. Don't know any better
B. View driving as a chore

Yes to all of this.

[BlackbirdM3]

the commercials are so stupid they act like its a break through car when its just a rebadged alfa romeo

Its not even a rebadged Alfa, its a rebadged Fiat. Fiat has destroyed the Alfa name and image. Rather than offering Alfa as the mid-high end line (since Fiat also owns Ferrari) they have turned the company into the red headed stepchild and have beaten it into submission. Its really sad to be honest. They even closed the Alfa Museum and fired all the employees, many who have been there since before Fiat acquired Alfa. You used to be able to send the Alfa Historic society at the museum your VIN# and within a day they would give you all the info on your car they had. Not any more. As far as I know the place is closed tight and boarded up. There has been talk of selling off the collection. Fiat doesn't want anything to do with Alfa, but they won't sell it off either.

As for the Dodge, it offers nothing special. It looks like a Honda Civic, and is less than boring in every way. A bad case of design fail as well as marketing fail. Still, if it were badged as an Alfa people here in the US would buy it because they remember what Alfa used to be (in the '70s). They would also be let down after they bought it or drove it. It doesn't surprise me at all that they fail to sell.

Will

[King Mufasa]

Its not even a rebadged Alfa, its a rebadged Fiat. Fiat has destroyed the Alfa name and image. Rather than offering Alfa as the mid-high end line (since Fiat also owns Ferrari) they have turned the company into the red headed stepchild and have beaten it into submission. Its really sad to be honest. They even closed the Alfa Museum and fired all the employees, many who have been there since before Fiat acquired Alfa. You used to be able to send the Alfa Historic society at the museum your VIN# and within a day they would give you all the info on your car they had. Not any more. As far as I know the place is closed tight and boarded up. There has been talk of selling off the collection. Fiat doesn't want anything to do with Alfa, but they won't sell it off either.

As for the Dodge, it offers nothing special. It looks like a Honda Civic, and is less than boring in every way. A bad case of design fail as well as marketing fail. Still, if it were badged as an Alfa people here in the US would buy it because they remember what Alfa used to be (in the '70s). They would also be let down after they bought it or drove it. It doesn't surprise me at all that they fail to sell.

Will

I dont think its poor design alot of people dont think so. Its just not your performance oriented space ship that we all expected to see. But I do hope it sells for our economy sake.

old school



New school
new car based on the Alfa with 3 engine choices



Personally I think she has to much ass but at least the car has a history Behind the the name

[JasonC]

Its not even a rebadged Alfa, its a rebadged Fiat. Fiat has destroyed the Alfa name and image. Rather than offering Alfa as the mid-high end line (since Fiat also owns Ferrari) they have turned the company into the red headed stepchild and have beaten it into submission. Its really sad to be honest. They even closed the Alfa Museum and fired all the employees, many who have been there since before Fiat acquired Alfa. You used to be able to send the Alfa Historic society at the museum your VIN# and within a day they would give you all the info on your car they had. Not any more. As far as I know the place is closed tight and boarded up. There has been talk of selling off the collection. Fiat doesn't want anything to do with Alfa, but they won't sell it off either.

As for the Dodge, it offers nothing special. It looks like a Honda Civic, and is less than boring in every way. A bad case of design fail as well as marketing fail. Still, if it were badged as an Alfa people here in the US would buy it because they remember what Alfa used to be (in the '70s). They would also be let down after they bought it or drove it. It doesn't surprise me at all that they fail to sell.

Will

I'm thinking most people don't really know what an Alfa is... And if they did, they would remember a goofy looking car.

Most think of the Dart as a cheaper compact car from the 60's-70's. But most don't realize is that it came out as something not as compact. Yes it was a bit smaller then what was offered at the time and marketed as a cheaper car for the masses.



I'd think a 2 door hatch back would be a good seller on this model. But still that name on it... But yet they did use the Charger name in the 80's on a fwd. And on the behemoths of the mid 70's. Plus on the new 4 doors today.

[King Mufasa]

I was readind they built a Dart for the Global Rally Cross Championship. With a 2.0-liter, 4-cylinder, 16-valve turbo-charged engine rated 600 hp (447 kW) and over 550 lb·ft (746 N·m) of torque, Sedav 4-wheel drive transmission.

Check this site it has the video of it doing its thing. I think its bad azz

http://www.dodge.com/en/2013/dart/grc/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEvw0Gs2_ko&feature=player_embedded

Hopefully this continues its history. despite the haters