Bimmer mag: The “is” mystique

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  • bmwstephen
    R3VLimited
    • May 2009
    • 2463

    #31
    Originally posted by nando
    the funny thing is those bone stock cars probably handle better overall than half of the "lowering spring" cars here.

    but some things like shocks, springs, and definitely bottlecaps (ugh) can be upgraded tastefully and still leave the car stock.

    yeah, they made a lot of "is" cars but really, how many nice ones do you see anymore? All the E30s I see are total hackjobs that I wouldn't pay $500 for.
    likely true. there's so much involved with suspension systems that simply lowering the car does not equate to better dynamics.

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    • Cinnabar325is
      E30 Enthusiast
      • Mar 2011
      • 1064

      #32
      Originally posted by nando

      yeah, they made a lot of "is" cars but really, how many nice ones do you see anymore? All the E30s I see are total hackjobs that I wouldn't pay $500 for.
      I just said something like this last night to my wife. We live in an area where I'd expect to see as many E30s as anywhere else in the country. Yet I could count on one hand the number of them I've seen on the road in the last 6 months. And all them were early models... either 318s or 325e.

      Seeing a late model coupe on the road or especially a 325is? Just about impossible.

      One other point, I'm still surprised at what seem to be the majority of 325is cars which came with automatics. Nowadays, a clean 325is that was originally a 5 speed is very tough to find.
      '89 BMW 325is Zinnoberrot / '88 VW Jetta GLI 16v Tornado Red / '89 VW Jetta GLI 16v Tornado Red / '89 VW GTI 16v Bright Blue Metallic / '91 BMW 325i Black / '91 BMW 325i Sport Black / '92 VW GTI 16v Black / '92 VW GTI 16v Montana Green / '01 Audi A4 Avant TQM Silver Metallic / '01 VW Jetta GLX VR6 Black

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      • bmwstephen
        R3VLimited
        • May 2009
        • 2463

        #33
        Originally posted by Cinnabar325is
        I just said something like this last night to my wife. We live in an area where I'd expect to see as many E30s as anywhere else in the country. Yet I could count on one hand the number of them I've seen on the road in the last 6 months. And all them were early models... either 318s or 325e.

        Seeing a late model coupe on the road or especially a 325is? Just about impossible.

        One other point, I'm still surprised at what seem to be the majority of 325is cars which came with automatics. Nowadays, a clean 325is that was originally a 5 speed is very tough to find.
        quite the opposite around here. see a lot more 5 speeds than auto ISs. not like the automatics were any bad. i have an automatic IS and its pretty peppy and responsive compared to my e46 automatic

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        • Cinnabar325is
          E30 Enthusiast
          • Mar 2011
          • 1064

          #34
          Originally posted by bmwstephen
          quite the opposite around here. see a lot more 5 speeds than auto ISs. not like the automatics were any bad. i have an automatic IS and its pretty peppy and responsive compared to my e46 automatic
          Surprised to hear that. Not saying it's a bad auto, but virtually any enthusiast would prefer to do their own shifting. And being that it was the "sport" model, I can't believe the proportion that I see as autos.
          '89 BMW 325is Zinnoberrot / '88 VW Jetta GLI 16v Tornado Red / '89 VW Jetta GLI 16v Tornado Red / '89 VW GTI 16v Bright Blue Metallic / '91 BMW 325i Black / '91 BMW 325i Sport Black / '92 VW GTI 16v Black / '92 VW GTI 16v Montana Green / '01 Audi A4 Avant TQM Silver Metallic / '01 VW Jetta GLX VR6 Black

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          • bastianshaw
            R3VLimited
            • Jan 2007
            • 2210

            #35
            Originally posted by jlevie
            I have, once it is painted, what would qualify as a "time capsule car". It is an 87 325is that has been restored to like new stock condition. I've been working on it as time permits for the last year of so. Major work completed so far includes complete suspension rebuild, motor rebuild, new seat leather, various electrical parts replaced to fix problems or get rid of faded switches/lights, brake system refresh/rebuild, and all new A/C parts. The only place I didn't use OE parts is in the suspension. I prefer the M3 offset cab's and I used Koni SA shocks. The car sounds and drives like it did when it was new and the interior looks like a new car.

            The handling in the stock configuration (with everything fresh) is really quite good. Certainly much better than it needs to be in street driving. And I'm comparing that to my Spec E30.
            pics of said car

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            • reelizmpro
              R3V OG
              • Dec 2003
              • 9450

              #36
              Stock suspension is just different than what most of us have gotten used to. Let's not get carried away here. My daily 88 iS had stock suspension and it was a good combination of sport/comfort but I wouldn't say it's better than H&R Race/Bilstein because I like the car lowered without the monster fender gap, less sway and go cart like handling.

              As far as clean iS' go, true you hardly see any clean ones anymore but this is true for all E30's in general, not just the iS. Truth be told, if I were really searching for an clean iS, I bet I could find one, locally as well. There are still a lot of E30's in Cali. In fact, there's a pretty clean one selling for $7k right now. A couple of guys on the forum picked up a decent one recently that just needed a detail and fresh gas for $1800.
              Last edited by reelizmpro; 02-23-2013, 01:43 PM.
              "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

              85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
              88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
              89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
              91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER

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              • achtung911
                Advanced Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 148

                #37
                What is considered a "time capsule" car?

                I have a 1992 325i vert. Working electronic top. Working heated seats, actually everything works with 83000 original miles. I am 2nd owner.
                disregard women, acquire currency.

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                • leegf
                  E30 Enthusiast
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 1168

                  #38
                  Originally posted by achtung911
                  What is considered a "time capsule" car?

                  I have a 1992 325i vert. Working electronic top. Working heated seats, actually everything works with 83000 original miles. I am 2nd owner.
                  how's the paint? interior? is it up to date on maintenance? what on the car is non-original or non-oem?

                  depending on the answers to these questions, yours sounds like it might qualify.

                  E46t

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                  • steven g
                    Advanced Member
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 119

                    #39
                    Looks like the owner of the 1991 318is in that article has their car for sale on Autotrader

                    http://m.autotrader.com/vdp.html?id=340710297
                    1989 325iX Zinnoberrot/Black 65k miles

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                    • achtung911
                      Advanced Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 148

                      #40
                      Originally posted by leegf
                      how's the paint? interior? is it up to date on maintenance? what on the car is non-original or non-oem?

                      depending on the answers to these questions, yours sounds like it might qualify.
                      Everything's mint. Only thing I can think of is a few dents. here's a few pics for reference

                      disregard women, acquire currency.

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                      • leegf
                        E30 Enthusiast
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 1168

                        #41
                        Originally posted by steven g
                        Looks like the owner of the 1991 318is in that article has their car for sale on Autotrader

                        http://m.autotrader.com/vdp.html?id=340710297
                        he sold it to EAG (harvester of low mileage BMWs), who then placed it on autotrader.



                        Originally posted by achtung911
                        Everything's mint. Only thing I can think of is a few dents. here's a few pics for reference

                        http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=273953
                        dents notwithstanding (and provided they can be removed via PDR), i would say that that qualifies, yes. nice car! :)

                        E46t

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                        • Luke_M
                          Wrencher
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 258

                          #42
                          What's the deal with EAG? They seem to be buying up a lot of e30 m3's in particular and are asking crazy prices when compared to what private owners are asking. I know they are usually clean and lowish miles but damn. It's like they are trying to single-handedly trying to drive prices up on clean stockish bmws. If it's working, more power to them I guess.
                          Euro S50 Daily Driver: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=279195

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                          • leegf
                            E30 Enthusiast
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 1168

                            #43
                            i'd be interested in seeing where this ends:


                            E46t

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                            • ssaylor
                              Advanced Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 125

                              #44
                              Hey guys, that's my 325is in the article. I have it entered in the Concours at Legends of the Autobahn this year and it will be on display at the Octoberfest concours.

                              It's going to be BMW heaven in Monterey this year! Hope you all can make it!!!

                              Scott

                              _________________________________
                              1990 M3 Diamond Schwartz/Silver
                              1989 325is Zinnoberrot/Black
                              Things I've flown and driven

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                              • illest318i
                                E30 Fanatic
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 1472

                                #45
                                Awesome article! Unfortunately my subscription with Bimmer ended and I never got to read this till now, but thanks for posting OP!
                                IG: @_j.wn

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