What's your opinion on stance?

[Crippled Crip]

ill just leave this here

[nando]

I could pick at it, but that's like what, 2% of "stanced" type cars?

it really looks like what we would have considered a "euro" style car 10 years ago - low ride, wide lips, stretched tires, otherwise clean/stock looking.

You know what's really hilarious? Stanced semi-trucks. yes, I've seen a few around here, being used as work trucks. I guess I can see the benefit (lowered cab I imagine, a "low boy" if you will) - less air drag, possibly better fuel economy. It just seems funny that somebody would actually slam a semi truck that they use in real life!

[ZekeTheSneak]

I hate you all... Its all about how you do it. Stiff springs and proper valving. Both of these cars have full shock travel and handle great. With my m20 it never hit the ground ever.

[pacmanE30]

That goes for every thing tho. There always somebody who can't afford to do it right so they do what they can, no matter what it is.

My favorite stanced e30. How can you not like it:

Aloha, that's a nice view!

[CrusherCurtis]

The only time a stanced car pisses me off is when they slow traffic to get over a speedbump.

Doesn't every one in a e30 do this?

There is such a grey area in the word "stance." It encompasses the idiots that cut their springs and roll around on 175's on a 10" wide wheel and people like csermonet, that make a car visually appealing, all the while putting the effort into doing it correctly. However, whenever "stance" comes up people who hate it automatically assume everyone is in the first category which is down right false.

That is why I hate that word.

That goes for every thing tho. There always somebody who can't afford to do it right so they do what they can, no matter what it is.

My favorite stanced e30. How can you not like it:

[lambo]

There is such a grey area in the word "stance." It encompasses the idiots that cut their springs and roll around on 175's on a 10" wide wheel and people like csermonet, that make a car visually appealing, all the while putting the effort into doing it correctly. However, whenever "stance" comes up people who hate it automatically assume everyone is in the first category which is down right false.

That is why I hate that word.

[nando]

that's funny. I wouldn't consider my car stanced either, but it's like an inch lower than that. those look like awesomely clean OEM+ style cars to me - stock looking on the outside but not ridiculous wheel gap.

any lower though, and it wouldn't be practical. I've actually thought about raising mine up a tad - the 225/50s are really close to the front fenders even in a straight line.

don't want it to catch on the fender flare and rip it off. then I would probably would be able to consider my car stanced because it'd have a messed up fender and missing trim. all I'd have to do is put some sideways stickers on the windows and put my tow hook on the front, then take some over saturated / photoshopped pictures. ;)

[PJH]

I don't see my car as a stanced car. I see my car as a trackable streetcar:



It sits on bilstein's and eibach springs. Most people around here don't like my car, they see it as too low and just stupid. Same story with my friends M3:





Only other car-guys like these, because they know the mods have a function. The average joe sees the cars as stupid useless toys, sometimes that isn't fun.

I don't mind how a car looks. To each his own I always say. The only time a stanced car pisses me off is when they slow traffic to get over a speedbump.

[E30SPDFRK]

5 pages in less than 4 hours. You all hate it but just can't stay away. ;)

I've met plenty of intelligent and genuine people who I can confidently call my friends. I will agree that there are also plenty of tards and weirdos who really arent enthusiasts at all, but people like that are found in almost every scene.

This here is the truth.

I have more stance friends then straight BMW friends, and those friends are more knowledgeable and bigger car enthusiasts than a lot of the BMW people I've met. Just because you've seen a bad egg doesn't mean you can instantly stereotype everyone to be one.

The first e30 meet I ever went to was one of the biggest group of car idiots I have ever seen. Did that turn me away?

we used to say around here "your car as a nice stance" - meaning, the wheel gap was proportional, it didn't have a weird reverse rake or something, the tires looked like they fit, and the wheels weren't either sticking out 2" or sunken in. It wasn't a bad thing.

having busted up front body kits, dented fenders, missing trim, crap hanging all over the car, didn't count as "stance".

Your first definition is really what stance is. People take that look to extremes sometimes and combine it with other styles, but just plain old "stance" is really just that. I know that you don't like "stance", so it's good to hear you saying that definition.


I dare any of you to go over to StanceWorks (gasp!) and actually take a look at the cars that are posted as a whole. Don't just pick out a few you don't like; you'll find that probably 75% or more of the cars on there would be considered "acceptable" by your standards. Look in the build threads section and I'm sure you'll find some cars that you actually like.

[Holland]

Oh, and I just remembered that a stanced RSX came to an autox last year running 8* of negative camber IN THE REAR. His spring/shock combo did nothing but bounce the car around and scrape the bottom of the front bumper and his wheel wells. He had slower times than a stock Kia Rio...

Bwahahahaha! Bet he thought he was such hot shit out there too.

[matthugie]

Oh, and I just remembered that a stanced RSX came to an autox last year running 8* of negative camber IN THE REAR. His spring/shock combo did nothing but bounce the car around and scrape the bottom of the front bumper and his wheel wells. He had slower times than a stock Kia Rio...

[matthugie]

I honestly hate the word stance. That is for kids that lower beyond use. Yes mine is low...but it is purpose built. Wide tires that meet OE height specs, zero rubbing and enough clearance to daily drive in NY.

I built the car for scca and back road fun.

Exactly this. In my opinion F34R's and Eric's cars aren't stanced at all, they are purpose built for business. Stance removes every purpose except aesthetics. My preference is for cars where form follows function, such as theirs.

[funcrew]

I was explaining the various car-enthusiast tribes to my teenage kids, at their request. I brought up a bunch of "stance" photos and pointed out the lowness, poke, stretch, and bad camber. They didn't get it either.

[illest318i]

I love stance! And I plan on getting my car some good stance one day with some nice wheels. But nowadays there's some people with some stupid ass stance like they have a mean ass stretch with an excessive amount of negative camber, looks super retarded. IMO I think some good low with a little bit of some camber look good, but don't over do it. And another thing, cars like Hondas shouldn't even be or have a stance, they already look ugly as they are x)

[Cabriolet]

FTFY :up:


Hopefully with a lot more cutting, my new wheels will really get the stance fanboys all worked up!

there's a euro B30????