Any subaru techs here?

[bimmer630]

Got a subaru dealer tech question.. Is anybody here a subaru guy?

[cferb]

I have a Subaru, does that count?

Really though, why don't you try Nasioc?

[e30Villain]

Asking for Subaru techs in an e30 forum is like asking the chess club how to pick up girls.

[nomansland92]

I've got a subbie and a few of my buddies are very experienced with building them. Post your question ill shot it over to them if you would like.

[bimmer630]

cool.. (btw I just asked here hoping somebody was a subaru tech but an e30 owner.. I dont wanna register on a subbie forum)
Anyway, I work at a private shop and we replaced a pcm in an 07 outback because the floor got wet and the pcm was shorted out. after installing the new pcm (from subaru) I can only communicate over the CAN bus by using the generic OBD function. this car has trans, instrument cluster, body control module, abs, pcm, and maybe a few others ... all on the CAN line.
THe module needs to be programmed and "paired" to the body module to make the car start.
I just wanted to speak to someone who works or worked at a dealer to see if they knew anything about how these modules protocols are set up..
Will a new pcm (subbie calls them EGI) not allow CAN bus communication through the whole system, with the exception of generic OBD, untill it has been programmed?
Subaru diagnostics use another line on the obd connector, pin 7.. which the dealer tool may use to get into all the other modules and reprogram/flash.

we use an Autel scanner and it wont talk to anything in the car besides obd generic. I know my CAN line is ok, since I can talk to obd generic.
also we tried a Snapon Solus and it was the same deal

thanks for forwarding this to your friend.. we are out of ideas over here

[ReallyDirtyThirty]

Came here expecting to hear lesbian relationship problems. Left disappointed.

[10Toes]

I have a Subaru, does that count?

Really though, why don't you try Nasioc?

Unless you want to learn about the newest hippest flat bill hat then don't even bother registering on NASIOC.

[cferb]

Unless you want to learn about the newest hippest flat bill hat then don't even bother registering on NASIOC.

Yea they can be pretty obnoxious, I generally don't go there, but there are some people that really know there shit, just stick to technical subforums.

Sorry OP, by Subaru is way too old for me to be able to help with that.

[kts]

cool.. (btw I just asked here hoping somebody was a subaru tech but an e30 owner.. I dont wanna register on a subbie forum)
Anyway, I work at a private shop and we replaced a pcm in an 07 outback because the floor got wet and the pcm was shorted out. after installing the new pcm (from subaru) I can only communicate over the CAN bus by using the generic OBD function. this car has trans, instrument cluster, body control module, abs, pcm, and maybe a few others ... all on the CAN line.
THe module needs to be programmed and "paired" to the body module to make the car start.
I just wanted to speak to someone who works or worked at a dealer to see if they knew anything about how these modules protocols are set up..
Will a new pcm (subbie calls them EGI) not allow CAN bus communication through the whole system, with the exception of generic OBD, untill it has been programmed?
Subaru diagnostics use another line on the obd connector, pin 7.. which the dealer tool may use to get into all the other modules and reprogram/flash.

we use an Autel scanner and it wont talk to anything in the car besides obd generic. I know my CAN line is ok, since I can talk to obd generic.
also we tried a Snapon Solus and it was the same deal

thanks for forwarding this to your friend.. we are out of ideas over here

Google Subaru Select Monitor, it's a Subaru specific protocol and tool used by the dealerships.

http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/65-parts-accessories-performance/39426-freessm-complete-access-your-ecm-tcu.html

That link might help with an open source tool to deal w SSM.

I'm not a tech but I remember a friend had an issue like this where he tried to pair a new ECU/PCM on his 06 Impreza to the anti theft immobilizer and this is something only the dealer could do with their SSM tools. That was a pre CANBUS car but sounds similar to your issue.

Hopefully you can find a way to pair it but I think it might be easier to get the dealer to do it with their tools.

[bimmer630]

Google Subaru Select Monitor, it's a Subaru specific protocol and tool used by the dealerships.

http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/65-parts-accessories-performance/39426-freessm-complete-access-your-ecm-tcu.html

That link might help with an open source tool to deal w SSM.

I'm not a tech but I remember a friend had an issue like this where he tried to pair a new ECU/PCM on his 06 Impreza to the anti theft immobilizer and this is something only the dealer could do with their SSM tools. That was a pre CANBUS car but sounds similar to your issue.

Hopefully you can find a way to pair it but I think it might be easier to get the dealer to do it with their tools.

Awesome link! thanks. It says I can use my VAG-COM ebay cable to run it off a laptop too!

[nomansland92]

I talked to my buddy he really didn't know what to make of it, but good luck I hope you get it all straightened out.