Hahahahahaha - You guys seen this GL-30 idiocy on stanceworks?

[mrcheezle19]

Maybe he's just trolling SW.
If he is, I propose we create some kind of huge award w/ ceremony for him.

Should we send a pizza and make t shirts?

[Holland]

Should we send a pizza and make t shirts?

He accidentally the E30.

[Solarian]

Most of the "hate" you see today on car forums comes from angry purists. Get over yourselves already. Some people choose to mod their cars differently then you, Imagine that! You're not superior to anyone.

Depends on what you mean by purists. I don't support limiting people's options for authenticity (only BMW engines in BMWs), but I'm a very strong supporter of effectiveness. For example, if someone wanted to swap in a 302 Ford Windsor V8, I'm all for it. They're affordable, they can make great power, etc... But let's say they want to swap in... A 2.7L Hyundai V6. I'm not singling out Hyundai because I have any issue with the brand, but that specific motor offers no tangible benefits over an M20. And people do this kinda shit constantly, because they want to be "different". This is the root of the problem, different for the sake of different.

I keep hearing the argument that this is a driver for innovation, etc... but it doesn't hold water. Maybe if you're undertaking a swap that you can see would bring tangible benefits, but hasn't been done before, so might be more work than established ones. I'm talking about the motherfuckers that realize there's nothing good or useful about what they're doing, but they're just such a special little snowflake and they want the whole world to know how special and unique they are.

I realize that it's not exactly accurate to use engine analogies when discussing a thread about body mods, but I do think it relates though. Effectiveness still plays a role. Fitting random body parts from one vehicle onto another rarely if ever looks good and also rarely if ever offers any tangible benefits.

As for the last bit about superiority, effective is superior over ineffective by definition. When you do something that accomplishes something, it is inherently better than doing something which accomplishes nothing. Maybe in snowflake world all things are equal and all things are good, but in the real world, people only care about useful things.

[ZekeTheSneak]

I hate that he is in washington..... I just dont get it

[Mlarsen]

You can thank Mike Burroughs

To blame him for this car is like blaming gun makers for murders. Shit don't add up. This car sucks; laugh at the stupidity and move on.

[Roysneon]

Depends on what you mean by purists. I don't support limiting people's options for authenticity (only BMW engines in BMWs), but I'm a very strong supporter of effectiveness. For example, if someone wanted to swap in a 302 Ford Windsor V8, I'm all for it. They're affordable, they can make great power, etc... But let's say they want to swap in... A 2.7L Hyundai V6. I'm not singling out Hyundai because I have any issue with the brand, but that specific motor offers no tangible benefits over an M20. And people do this kinda shit constantly, because they want to be "different". This is the root of the problem, different for the sake of different.

I keep hearing the argument that this is a driver for innovation, etc... but it doesn't hold water. Maybe if you're undertaking a swap that you can see would bring tangible benefits, but hasn't been done before, so might be more work than established ones. I'm talking about the motherfuckers that realize there's nothing good or useful about what they're doing, but they're just such a special little snowflake and they want the whole world to know how special and unique they are.

I realize that it's not exactly accurate to use engine analogies when discussing a thread about body mods, but I do think it relates though. Effectiveness still plays a role. Fitting random body parts from one vehicle onto another rarely if ever looks good and also rarely if ever offers any tangible benefits.

As for the last bit about superiority, effective is superior over ineffective by definition. When you do something that accomplishes something, it is inherently better than doing something which accomplishes nothing. Maybe in snowflake world all things are equal and all things are good, but in the real world, people only care about useful things.

To a point this is true, however it does not explain things like sentimental value or what different people find asthetically pleasing. Do we bag on people who rebuild m20s to have 3L of displacement, add custom headers, a big cam and lots of shiny fancy valvetrain parts when an s52 would make more power for less or equal work and money invested? Generally, no.

I'm not defending the E30-bru at all, I think it's as rediculous as the guys attitude, but I also think that there is a point where it is worth doing something that won't see raw numerical results.

[Aleman]

He should have just waited till the project was finished and THEN posted the project pics. All his trials & errors will be open to criticism for a work-in-progress. That said, it will probably still look like butt when it's 'done'.

[smitche]

I will never understand why people get so worked up about these things. To each their own.

[Stephen]

To blame him for this car is like blaming gun makers for murders. Shit don't add up. This car sucks; laugh at the stupidity and move on.

Seriously. People have been doing stupid shit long before Mike, independent of Mike, and will continue to after Mike. What the hell does any of mikes builds have to do with this POS? It's not even "stanced"

[dannyyisntt]

Seriously. People have been doing stupid shit long before Mike, independent of Mike, and will continue to after Mike. What the hell does any of mikes builds have to do with this POS? It's not even "stanced"

I'll agree my comment may have been poorly thought out. As there are lots of people doing stupid shit like this all over the place.

I'm largely not a fan of mikes work and see him as the poster child for a lot of the attention whorish builds on stanceworks. Aka that abomination he calls rusty. However this is simply my opinion, so I don't really give a fuck if you disagree with it.

That being said, why didn't this guy just put his effort into building this car into something interesting on its own?

[Northern]

meth + stanceworks = that pile of shit.

This.

Also noticing that Rice4lyfe is a full blown retard.

[E30_Pare]

*squints* looks like an e30. Must be an e30 need to get allt his subby off.

[word is bond]

Projects shouldn't get automatic applause just cos they're different or "unique." I don't care if it's been done a million times or once, I'm gonna judge it on merit. Using the simple binary scale of "Good or Stupid?" I'm going with Stupid on this one.

[rob&e30]

I will convert my e30 into a Subaru!

[kickinindian]

I will convert my e30 into a Subaru!

that would show em!!:giggle: