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    Back from the brink of calling it quits.

    Back in June I picked up an s52 from a member on here. Weekend only cruiser, never seen snow, perfect running condition.. yadda yadda. "Needs nothing, wire in your c101, and have your swap running in a day!". I knew the quick and easy swap claims were bullshit, but I figured it would be a perfect starting point.

    I got the engine in, and running at the beginning of August. I was ecstatic. I thought I really got what I payed for. It started right up, idled strong, and revved up without issue. Everything you would expect from a low mileage s52 sold at a premium. Granted the radiator leaked, the mounts are probably on their way out, and I needed to buy a new clutch, and flywheel, but I digress.

    Before dropping it into the car I replaced a few things like the thermostat, spark plugs, rear main seal, oil pan, valve cover, and intake gaskets.

    Fast forward to the beginning of September. I get the drive-shaft installed after waiting 2 long weeks for the final 3 bolts needed to attach the guibo to transmission. I start the car up, and I notice white, sweet smelling smoke coming from the tail pipe. I chalked it up as condensation due to it being the first cold night of the season. Anyone with any sort of experience would have spotted the impending doom right there. I however, went into this project knowing almost nothing about cars, and was unaware of some of these basic tell-tale signs to look out for.

    The next day, final pre-flight inspections were completed. I couldn't believe it. I had been waiting almost two years for this day to come. The blood, sweat, and tears that had ensued would all finally be worth it.

    Me and my brother hop in the car for it's maiden voyage. The car is running, and driving as well as I always dreamed it would be, or so I thought. We took a few laps around the neighborhood before returning home where my friend had been waiting. Both of us have shit eating grins plastered to our faces at this point.

    My friend hops in for his turn in the passenger seat. This time around the temp needle starts climbing dangerously high. I immediately turn around, and limp the last 2 blocks home. I pull over, and immediately turn off the car. My worst nightmares have come true. Tiny air bubbles are pouring from the head gasket, and oil looks to be seeping past the right side of the lower timing chain cover. Survey says..... Blown head gasket!

    Needless to say I was crushed, but I held it together considering the circumstances. Thinking about it made me sick, so I did what any warm blooded american would do.. I bought another toy to distract me. A 1981 Kawasaki kz305. Picked it up cheap from a friend, and have been riding it for the past month every chance I can get.

    After a brief intermission, I am back, and ready to tackle this next hurdle. Due to the engine overheating, this week I went ahead, and bought a reconditioned head/VANOS unit from autoheadperformance.com. Top end gasket set, head bolts, water pump, thermostat, and new radiator/hoses are all on the list to be ordered next.

    It occurred to me today that replacing the timing chain gasket makes this job just that much more intensive. I still have yet to figure out what I will need to replace while that cover is off. Chain guides, tensioners, etc.



    Now that that is off my chest. On to the questions.

    Has anyone attempted a head gasket while the engine is in the car? Was it worth the trouble, or would you pull the engine if you were to do it again? Any words of advice for a first timer?

    #2
    Hi Chris, sorry to hear about the overheating. My 24v car's been plagued with it for ages and I am finally getting to the bottom of it, yet again.

    Head gasket while in car is perfectly doable. Unfortunately you may not have enough room for the factory cam lock tools for when you are putting everything back together though (I had this problem, had to eyeball it... runs fine. But I am good at eyeballing).
    paint sucks

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      #3
      dud e stay positive when this is over your gonna have a VERY RELIABLE POWERFULL ENGINE

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        #4
        Thanks for the kind words. Unforunately, sometimes you have to learn the hard way. I've read numerous posts of members urging others to replace all gaskets on a used engine. Otherwise you WILL need to pull the engine again. Which is what I am going to end up doing. Let this be a lesson to everyone else doing these swaps. You may get lucky, but IMO it's not worth the gamble.

        Originally posted by bastianshaw View Post
        dud e stay positive when this is over your gonna have a VERY RELIABLE POWERFULL ENGINE
        Even with a blown head gasket this thing pulled like a bat out of hell! With every maintenance item out of the way, I should have as you said, a very reliable engine. I don't know what it is putting down to the wheels, but lets just say it's atleast 2x as fast as that lethargic eta I had before.

        I don't think I have uploaded a pic before. So I will leave this here. :early:

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          #5
          I know the feeling. I went through the work of replacing EVERYTHING, including new pistons and bearings to make sure I had a fresh motor and still had some BS happen. Keep your eye on the prize, I keep getting frustrated but I know when its all done and good I'll have something amazing. you will too!
          Simon
          Current Cars:
          -1966 Lotus Elan
          -1986 Mercedes Benz 2.3-16
          -2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI

          Make R3V Great Again -2020

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            #6
            Bail now. Get a new car and save your life! lol. JK - keep at it. Maybe I'll see you on the LI roads. E30s are rare 'round here!

            Good luck!
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              #7
              Originally posted by Wh33lhop View Post
              Hi Chris, sorry to hear about the overheating. My 24v car's been plagued with it for ages and I am finally getting to the bottom of it, yet again.

              Head gasket while in car is perfectly doable. Unfortunately you may not have enough room for the factory cam lock tools for when you are putting everything back together though (I had this problem, had to eyeball it... runs fine. But I am good at eyeballing).
              Cam locks fit if you just grind a little off to clear the battery tray.



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                #8
                Originally posted by 10Toes View Post
                Cam locks fit if you just grind a little off to clear the battery tray.
                Thanks for that info. Will be good to know for the future.

                I ended up pulling the engine this weekend. I am planning to replace everything minus the rotating assembly. Should be pulling the head in the next few days to see how the condition of the cylinder walls are. If everything is looking good. I am going to reseal, and run as is. If cross hatching is looking dodgy, I will jump that hurdle when I get there.

                Originally posted by EyExR View Post
                Bail now. Get a new car and save your life! lol. JK - keep at it. Maybe I'll see you on the LI roads. E30s are rare 'round here!

                Good luck!
                I know right. For what I have into this e30 I could have a decent e46, but what fun would that be. I see maybe 1 e30 every 2 months at best, and they are always beat.

                Thanks for the motivation everyone. Glad to hear I'm not the only one who has been plagued with problems. It could always be worse.

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                  #9
                  What wheels are those?
                  1993 325ic Schwarz/Natur
                  1991 318is Black/Black - Slicktop - Project s52
                  1989 Alpine White/Black M3 S52
                  1988 Henna/Pearl M3 <3

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                    #10
                    Sorry to hear your troubles man. I'm taking a class in college and we just learned what the most likely problem is when you see white smoke if it's not cold out and even before you said "head gasket" I knew that was going to be the issue. It's not the end though, at least you know the motor doesn't have any other major issues like clucking noises or any sketchy stuff. On a side note what suspension are you on?/ size wheels? I want my early that low!


                    1992 M tech 2 Convertible - S50 Swap
                    1992 e34 Touring- S50 Swap
                    1992 325i-S50 Swap (SOLD)

                    1995 e36 M3 Mugello Red - S50 (SOLD)
                    1991 325i Convertible Laguna Green (SOLD)
                    1987 325i (SOLD);1992 M tech 2 Convertible (SOLD)
                    1988 325i Convertible Alpine White (SOLD)
                    1991
                    Brilliantrot Convertible 80k Miles (SOLD)
                    1992 325i Convertible Schwarz (SOLD)
                    1992 318i Convertible Project-Finished (SOLD)

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by nyChris View Post
                      Thanks for that info. Will be good to know for the future.

                      I ended up pulling the engine this weekend. I am planning to replace everything minus the rotating assembly. Should be pulling the head in the next few days to see how the condition of the cylinder walls are. If everything is looking good. I am going to reseal, and run as is. If cross hatching is looking dodgy, I will jump that hurdle when I get there.



                      I know right. For what I have into this e30 I could have a decent e46, but what fun would that be. I see maybe 1 e30 every 2 months at best, and they are always beat.

                      Thanks for the motivation everyone. Glad to hear I'm not the only one who has been plagued with problems. It could always be worse.
                      People sell there e46 m3's at 100k cause that's when all the major maintenance starts, and if not done the car can go really down hill from there and cost a ton of money even if you do the work your self...


                      1992 M tech 2 Convertible - S50 Swap
                      1992 e34 Touring- S50 Swap
                      1992 325i-S50 Swap (SOLD)

                      1995 e36 M3 Mugello Red - S50 (SOLD)
                      1991 325i Convertible Laguna Green (SOLD)
                      1987 325i (SOLD);1992 M tech 2 Convertible (SOLD)
                      1988 325i Convertible Alpine White (SOLD)
                      1991
                      Brilliantrot Convertible 80k Miles (SOLD)
                      1992 325i Convertible Schwarz (SOLD)
                      1992 318i Convertible Project-Finished (SOLD)

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                        #12
                        headgasket went on my first e36,(few years ago) i knew nothing about cars at the time,and did my research and pulled it off and the car is still running strong to this day, so i must have done it right. you can do it, just take your time.


                        i have no idea what i am doing with my life

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