The i3 and the E30

[gath]

Quote - "What’s old is new again, and I found it in the i3"

http://www.bmwblog.com/2013/10/17/opposite-lock-whats-old-new-found-i3/

[einhander]

Laugh.

Whatever.

[GillesBigCowboy]

Sounds promising... I really am looking forward to driving it.
I could see myself buying an electric car in a few years.

[marshallnoise]

Uglier than sin.

[Hooffenstein HD]

Until they work out how to make electric cars RWD and Manual (with a clutch pedal), I have zero interest.

[BlackbirdM3]

E30 good looking, great design, has a motor, and a manual transmission that drives the rear wheels.

I3 God awful ugly. Looks like a deformed egg. Electric and total fail. Might be fine for a Prius driver who is looking for an even uglier vehicle but aside from that its a total failure in aesthetic design. Who cares beyond that? An ugly car is an ugly car no matter how great of a car it might be. Just look at the Pontiac Aztec. This thing is even uglier.

Will

[word is bond]

Huh? They already can make electric cars RWD. Most of, if not all of them are single speed - so manual with a clutch wouldn't really do much. The Model S is RWD and in its fastest form goes from 0-60 in 4.2 seconds. Not bad for a midsize luxury sedan with 1 gear. It's not what I would buy with ~100k, but it's still interesting.

Look - it's a small city car. It's about maximum interior volume in a small exterior package. I don't love the exterior, but it avoids the cardinal sin of blandness, and the interior is fantastic. Modern and minimal - great materials, textures and finishes that you don't usually find in a car.

[Dalejandrino]

Wow. BMW really fucked that one up

edit: Looks wise.

[herbivor]

Our next car will be electric when the lease is up on our VW TDI wagon in 2 years. Hopefully Tesla will have their less expensive i3 beater sooner rather than later. If not we may go for the model X. http://www.teslamotors.com/modelx. Except for looks the i3 is pretty impressive technology.

[Pantless Spency]

Until they work out how to make electric cars RWD and Manual (with a clutch pedal), I have zero interest.

here you go.

before you say something about it, they did say they had a 5 speed in it.

[AlexKing]

Huh? They already can make electric cars RWD. Most of, if not all of them are single speed - so manual with a clutch wouldn't really do much. The Model S is RWD and in its fastest form goes from 0-60 in 4.2 seconds. Not bad for a midsize luxury sedan with 1 gear. It's not what I would buy with ~100k, but it's still interesting.

Look - it's a small city car. It's about maximum interior volume in a small exterior package. I don't love the exterior, but it avoids the cardinal sin of blandness, and the interior is fantastic. Modern and minimal - great materials, textures and finishes that you don't usually find in a car.

the point is we want something that has more then one gear. Me? i would much rather have it with 5 speeds even if that made it slower. and the clutch makes doing the fun stuff just a little bit better.

if someone makes a 1500kg, rwd, 5/6 speed electric car with a clutch pedal i would buy it in a heart beat.

[Hooffenstein HD]

the point is we want something that has more then one gear. Me? i would much rather have it with 5 speeds even if that made it slower. and the clutch makes doing the fun stuff just a little bit better.

if someone makes a 1500kg, rwd, 5/6 speed electric car with a clutch pedal i would buy it in a heart beat.

Exactly. The clutch and gears are what makes a car fun.

[Holland]

the point is we want something that has more then one gear. Me? i would much rather have it with 5 speeds even if that made it slower. and the clutch makes doing the fun stuff just a little bit better.

if someone makes a 1500kg, rwd, 5/6 speed electric car with a clutch pedal i would buy it in a heart beat.

You wanting a clutch doesn't change engineering.

Early electric cars had way too many problems trying to incorporate a transmission, and then there is the fact that the cars don't need them.

Tesla S does 130 without the need for a transmission, the motor spins to a high enough RPM.

Not trying to hate, just making a simple observation.

[herbivor]

Exactly. The clutch and gears are what makes a car fun.

Maybe you forgot the purpose of what a clutch and gears are for. When your car can produce 100% torque instantly with one gear, the need for a clutch and multi gear transmission goes away. I love manuals but after driving the Tesla S, I'll take the 100% instant torque any day over a multi gear transmission. Way for fun.

[nando]

the i8 is badass. the i3.. I'd rather pretend it doesn't exist.