Its just a survey. The state uses it to appropriate funds to counties or for compliance statistics. They survey around 30 vehicles between 1990 and 2000. The officers don't make is sound optional because if they did no one would participate. It usually takes about 5-10 minutes unless there are people in front of you. It is 100% optional. If you get flagged just tell the officer you know it's not mandatory and you don't have time to participate. If you do participate the technicians will usually tell you how your car is doing.
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They do this in Halifax a lot - vehicle compliance inspections. There's an informal car meet every Sunday, and ever since one weekend where some idiots decided to throw bottles at a police officer who was trying to clear everyone out because the area was closing, there's an inspection at the entrance. Talk about the few ruining it for the many.Comment
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Just a disclaimer, I'm not a fan of Big Brother's getting in our shiite, but I have to comment on the uninformed/ignorant comments about this being "unconstitutional". When you take your driving test to get your drivers license in the state of CA, it is very clear on the application that "Driving a motor vehicle is a privilege, not a right"(and can be revoked at any time). If you operate a motor vehicle on any public highway, you abide by the state's laws. If a representative of the state requests that you show that your vehicle is roadworthy, including the Nox and Co that it emits, it is in their right to do so. This protects all of us and the air that we all breathe. I know we love to take all of our smog equipment off to gain that 2 extra HP, but you agreed to the terms of the deal when you signed your license application. So stop talking about your "rights being violated", please.'88 e28 B9
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It's the last half of your comments that are wrong. Sure, driving is a privilege, and that right it subject to restrictions. However under present California law, you in no way agree to allow for these road side CARB checks. That is why they are "Optional". It's kinda like those other stops ( recently in Ft. Worth TX, ) where they want to get DNA swaps & blood samples from random roadside checkpoint, and use off-duty police to make it seem required. But it's not, and everyone should know that.Comment
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seems like it's a legal stop according to this:
V C Section 2814.1 Vehicle Inspection Checkpoints
Vehicle Inspection Checkpoints
2814.1. (a) A board of supervisors of a county may, by ordinance, establish, on highways under its jurisdiction, a vehicle inspection checkpoint program to check for violations of Sections 27153 and 27153.5. The program shall be conducted by the local agency or department with the primary responsibility for traffic law enforcement.
(b) A driver of a motor vehicle shall stop and submit to an inspection conducted under subdivision (a) when signs and displays are posted requiring that stop.
(c) A county that elects to conduct the program described under subdivision (a) may fund that program through fine proceeds deposited with the county under Section 1463.15 of the Penal Code.
(d) State and local law enforcement agencies shall not conduct motorcycle only checkpoints.
Added Sec. 3, Ch. 482, Stats. 2003. Effective January 1, 2004.
Amended Sec. 1, Ch. 653, Stats. 2011. Effective January 1, 2012.
Amended Sec. 2, Ch. 89, Stats. 2012. Effective January 1, 2013.sigpicComment
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^Oh Whoops!^ Sorry Siggy!'88 e28 B9
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I'm not angry and I'm not calling you out, as a matter of fact you started out with the ad hominem attacks by calling some of us ignorant for stating that this is not legal. I'm saying that you are incorrect in saying that since we drive on the state's roads (which we pay for) that we are subject to their unconstitutional interpretation of laws. You by defending that practice is adding to the problem and "acceptance" of this encroachment. I'm not young or against authority, I'm against the further degradation of my personal freedoms.
I'm also done on this topic.Comment
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I don't like the thought, even though I've always complied with all smog rules, and all my vehicles pass easily bi-annually. The only reason to not have cats is if you can't afford them... but then you shouldn't be driving a car if you can't afford basic upkeep. Zero reasons to ditch them for "performance" like mentioned it's only 1-2 hp
This WOULD be perfectly legal to enforce, if you look at it from the vehicle code point of view. Honestly I wouldn't mind at all. Driving IS a gift, not a necessity. The only way it could theoretically come under fire is if you were stopped trying to make it to work on time, or an emergency situation.Last edited by Spyke; 01-31-2014, 03:20 PM.Comment
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The above quoted VC statute covers a vehicle emitting visible dark smoke for a period of time. It does not imply random checks. It's allowed on roads with county jurisdiction, as opposed to municipal.
They will TELL YOU at these roadside smog checkpoints, if you ask, that they are not mandatory.Comment
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