F250 or Chevy 2500

[mrsleeve]

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Dont wine to me about fuel prices, I drive a diesel, and the 350 we have still have is about as new as they come and only gets about 13 in a empty tahoe with 3.42's, 6.0 in a 3/4 ton will get close to that empty and about 9 when loaded about like the 350 my uncle had in his 98 1ton SRW.


well if its got the shity bench then I will keep my eyes out for a set of buckets out of a junker or wrecked rig.

So what are you going to keep in the gun rack........


oh side bar question whats your take on 10-12 RMK 800 155?????? I grew up with sleds in the mid west, but looking to get in to a little mountain back country and F/S road riding one of these years when I have a little time at home in the winter maybe even a few years older since I will likely have to buy a pair of them

[AdironRider]

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Dont wine to me about fuel prices, I drive a diesel, and the 350 we have still have is about as new as they come and only gets about 13 in a empty tahoe with 3.42's, 6.0 in a 3/4 ton will get close to that empty and about 9 when loaded about like the 350 my uncle had in his 98 1ton SRW.


well if its got the shity bench then I will keep my eyes out for a set of buckets out of a junker or wrecked rig.

So what are you going to keep in the gun rack........


oh side bar question whats your take on 10-12 RMK 800 155?????? I grew up with sleds in the mid west, but looking to get in to a little mountain back country and F/S road riding one of these years when I have a little time at home in the winter

Seriously, I could give a shit about fuel economy. I come to play and burn dino juice. If I was towing trailers all over the country maybe Id care, a little bit, but at this juncture the farthest this rig will travel is a couple hundred miles at a time, at most. More likely 10 miles here and 10 miles there.

Got a couple Savage Arms to put back there.

I have two 12's, both 155's, a RMK 600 pro (wifes sled) as well as the 800 pro (mine). I don't play with the turbos or anything like that, but have been really happy with the Poloaris lineup when it comes to mtn sleds. Sidehills pretty easy, relatively lightweight, reliable.

To be honest though, Im not a true expert on sleds, never geeked out on them as much as I did with cars.

I tend to side on the buy new for toys likes sleds, but if you are going to buy used, try and find a sled from a backcountry skier opposed to sled neck. Usually less abuse, but you'll probably have to catch up on maintenance a bit more. Usually can get a better deal that way as well since hippy bc skiers don't know shit. Colorado has these in spades.

[mrsleeve]

oh the fuel economy was not directed at you I know you dont care for what your using it for. I was talking to the other guy.

LOL yeah we have lots of hippy skiers around where I live too. I have not been on a sled in prolly 10 years, and the mountain thing is going to be 100% new to me, but I want to learn and have it a good winter hobby when I can get some time at home for it, my traditional time off, but we have been so busy industry wide for the last few years .

[AdironRider]

oh the fuel economy was not directed at you I know you dont care for what your using it for. I was talking to the other guy.

LOL yeah we have lots of hippy skiers around where I live too. I have not been on a sled in prolly 10 years, and the mountain thing is going to be 100% new to me, but I want to learn and have it a good winter hobby when I can get some time at home for it, my traditional time off, but we have been so busy industry wide for the last few years .

Oh for sure, mine was directed at the guy who keeps saying I need a 350 as well.

Mountain riding will take a bit getting used to, but its fucking awesome once it clicks for ya.

Remember your avi gear though, two of the three avis Ive been involved in personally were on sleds. Such a heavy trigger.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Chevy here too.

[mrsleeve]

yeah we lose a few skiers and sleders to the avi' s every year

[ravenlord89]

lord:
Really for 2005 you would go with a 6.0L Ford diesel over a LLY Duramax????? Your fucking brave or crazy, that is not the dead reliable combine engine we are talking about, ford has not had a diesel I would put a lot of faith in since that old bastard. Also have you jumped into the binders hard on a GMT880, they have been know to last over 120k miles on factory stock parts, IIRC they are 12.8" rotors up front and about the same out back. My 5600lb beast stops just as fast if not faster form 60 than my e30 did with minor breaking up grades and not even trip the abs. The soft pedal people bitch about is due to the hydraulic "hydroboost" power brakes and the design of the rear calipers and rotors. This is one of the reasons GM went back to drums on the GMT900's

Didn't see year. Was thinking about the old 7.3L Ford. Ya, I wouldn't touch a 6.0L.

Either way I am no fan of the Silverado. We have the "Military" version of the truck and it is an abismale POS that likes to set itself on fire and eat it's fanbelt (not an issue on the civilian version, we have extra stuff added in). During one summer I watched 6 different trucks have entire front ends done on them. I mean we drive them hard, but these trucks usually have around 30-70,000 kms (15-40,000miles) on them and are all from 2003. Brakes might come down to feel, but it doesn't feel like it wants to stop. Only thing I will say good about them is the Allison transmission. Out of our fleet there is only one with a wonky transmission. Considering how hard we beat on them, and how often they are driven in sub zero from cold I would say she is a tough little beast.

So ya, evn though it pains me to say, go with the GM.

[kendogg]

Looking at two work trucks. Looking for thoughts on each.

Keep in mind this is farm country, so truck prices tend to run a bit higher than say Florida. Also, Im in the middle of fucking nowhere so travel costs quickly add up.

Diesel while sweet is really not necessary for what I want to do. This will be a small homestead truck, used to build my cabin, haul firewood, and carry two sleds on a sled deck in the winter. Most it will tow is my FJ Cruiser 4x4 overland rig or a 4 place snowmobile trailer, so 6000 lbs or so.

1/2 tons are out of the question due to the snowmobile requirements. Payload is more important than towing to me.

1st. 2005 F250, 4x4 extended cab with the V8 gasser. 137.5k miles at 8k.

2nd 2005 Chevy 2500, 4x4 regular cab with the 6.0, 125K miles at 9k.

Both are rust free and appear at least to be not true work trucks, but more of a DIY type guys truck. Undercarraiges are clean on both and don't show the symptoms of a typical work truck.

Im leaning more towards the Chevy based purely on minimal bias and past experience with the 6.0 and higher payload capacity. Thoughts?

Definitely the Chevy. Cheaper and easier to work on and keep running, especially if this is a truck you'll be keeping for the long haul.

[kendogg]

lord:
Really for 2005 you would go with a 6.0L Ford diesel over a LLY Duramax????? Your fucking brave or crazy, that is not the dead reliable combine engine we are talking about, ford has not had a diesel I would put a lot of faith in since that old bastard. Also have you jumped into the binders hard on a GMT880, they have been know to last over 120k miles on factory stock parts, IIRC they are 12.8" rotors up front and about the same out back. My 5600lb beast stops just as fast if not faster form 60 than my e30 did with minor breaking up grades and not even trip the abs. The soft pedal people bitch about is due to the hydraulic "hydroboost" power brakes and the design of the rear calipers and rotors. This is one of the reasons GM went back to drums on the GMT900's




6.0 GM gasser is THIRSTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But they are work horse, they will eventually start using some oil but they are a solid long winded power plant. Friend had one with almost 200k he put on it working it every day as a construction crew truck. The 4l80e is also a very very good transmission behind it, it does not suffer form the plagues of the 4l60E that was in the 1/2 ton platform. Its still basically a turbo 400 with a O/D gear, A different buddy brought one over in a 95 powered by a 454 and thought his trans was shot. I pulled the stick and it was BLACK and smelt burnt. We dropped the pan, put a new filter in it. buttoned it all up and proceed to do a redneck fluid flush with a couple of 5 gal pails and last I knew he was still hauling hay and cattle with it.

Everything I own is a GM truck platform so I think you can guess what I would recommend, even though I would much rather have a ex cab for the storage and room.

What are you planing on doing with this thing, that might help to dictate what might work a little better one way or the other for you.

I would in a heartbeat. Delete EGR, put a set of ARP's in it, and replace all the fuel pump sensor stuff as necessary. Otherwise good engine. Would still rather have a 7.3, but... The Duramax, while nice, has always had major injector problems, among other things.

[AdironRider]

Definitely the Chevy. Cheaper and easier to work on and keep running, especially if this is a truck you'll be keeping for the long haul.

Given my milage it should be around for ten years or so. Def the long haul.

[Pac1373]

Meh, I am going to be a huge minority here, but imho..Ford f250.

want a truck to drive? sure Chev is OK, want a truck to work? I go Ford, I honestly have never drank the Chevy Kool-aid.
I have driven many Chevs as work trucks in the past as well as the F250 super duties, and the Super duty is more truck in my experience. mind you all of the SD's were Diesel and the Chevs were all gas jobs.

but, the market realities may be different down there, idk.

[noid]

Get a dodge power wagon.

[kendogg]

Meh, I am going to be a huge minority here, but imho..Ford f250.

want a truck to drive? sure Chev is OK, want a truck to work? I go Ford, I honestly have never drank the Chevy Kool-aid.
I have driven many Chevs as work trucks in the past as well as the F250 super duties, and the Super duty is more truck in my experience. mind you all of the SD's were Diesel and the Chevs were all gas jobs.

but, the market realities may be different down there, idk.

Then you're really making an apples/oranges comparison. The diesel is ALWAYS going to have heavier rated suspension, brakes, and axles. You've got roughly twice the engine weight sitting up front. I have a '97 C2500 extended cab, 8600 GVWR (HD basically) 2wd, long bed. Vortec 350 (which sucks in stock form, about to change that), and a 4l80e. I'll hook up to a gasser Ford any day :) Diesel for Diesel though, as I stated above, is different.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Oh, since I live close enough to OP to respond on the region and prices and such from a first-hand location...

Have you looked at the same optioned/equipped truck elsewhere to fly out, pick up and drive back? The savings, plus the lower level of assumed wear and tear from firsthand knowledge of how trucks around here get treated would likely be worth it, not to mention the prospect of scoring something from the southern half of our fair country as a way to minimise that nasty red stuff that grows on metal surfaces.

Buy this truck from someone in California that has never had it see dirt, nor pull anything, nor used it the way I think about 8-9 years here in EI/WeWY.

[mrsleeve]

I would in a heartbeat. Delete EGR, put a set of ARP's in it, and replace all the fuel pump sensor stuff as necessary. Otherwise good engine. Would still rather have a 7.3, but... The Duramax, while nice, has always had major injector problems, among other things.

Duramax is picky about keeping fuel filters clean, you keep them clean and keep the water from running though them with the proper additives, and not the howes or power service and you will see 150-200k before you see major injector issues.

Why go though all the trouble and expense of making a 6.0 reliable, when you can have the engine that ford tried to copy (you know AL head 32v push rod) and still have to worry about injectors at about the same time. IIRC ford and GM both use a Bosch injector the only main difference again IIRC is that GM likes to keep the Rail pressure up there a bit higher all the time