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  • nando
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    Originally posted by camshaftgsxr
    then neither does turner motorsport

    http://www.turnermotorsport.com/BMW-...trol-arms.aspx

    "Control arms also take abuse from impacts and handling forces. Aluminum control arms will generally bend and prevent an accurate alignment. Steel control arms will crack and fracture and require close inspection annually and replacement every 3-4 years."
    I've had an E30 for more than a decade.. I've never seen or heard a steel control arm fail that hadn't hit something hard. The ball joints alone will last 80,000 miles easy. 3-4 years is salesman bullshit.

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  • McGyver
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    Originally posted by slammin.e28
    My kid has better control of her arms than an e30 touring.

    Control? she passed out before 11! also, i missed her drinking from the bottle.

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  • Thizzelle
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    aluminum ones can fatigue and steel can crack but that's after racing the fuck out of them, not driving on the freeway and around your house.

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  • camshaftgsxr
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    Originally posted by Wschnitz
    OP pretty sure your just retarded, I just put AKG poly on my 220k mile control arms without a hitch..... I only ran them for a week until new lemforders came but still. You or your po hit a curb with both front wheels and bent them, deal with it.
    donno who you are talking to, but it appears to be me. even though im not the OP. which makes you the illiterate retard. :D

    petty ad hominem attacks go both ways.

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  • Wschnitz
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    OP pretty sure your just retarded, I just put AKG poly on my 220k mile control arms without a hitch..... I only ran them for a week until new lemforders came but still. You or your po hit a curb with both front wheels and bent them, deal with it.

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  • camshaftgsxr
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    Originally posted by McGyver
    true, but they can also bend from an impact. a friend's car hit a curb at 80mph and his iron control arm was all bent up, not cracked. HOWEVER, constant stress from bad roads with stiff suspension will create stress fractures. This could corrode over time to allow the control arm to actually fracture, but we're talking a VERY long time.

    I'm just wondering how your control arms were bolted to the frame rail with AKG bushings while they were "bent over time", then you weren't able to bolt them back up again. Are you sure you didn't mess something up, like in an accident?
    my friends car had worn out rubber bushings on it when we decided to go with akg poly instead. they wouldn't bolt back up on either side after we put the poly in the lolli lol.

    I'm not trying to argue metallurgy with a bunch of guys from the internet, I was just giving some anecdotal evidence as to why it would be better to spend $180 on two new oem arms from pelican than to spend 30 dollars on outer ball joints and pay somebody 1.8 hours book time (alldata) to press them on and off and still have 20 year old control arms and inner ball joints.

    Originally posted by slammin.e28
    Turner is also the one selling the arms. Of course they'll tell you shit to persuade you into buying new ones.

    The only cars control arms bend on are e30 tourings......Jerry....and that's to fit them between the taillights that are one piece.
    Originally posted by McGyver
    you have fucking terrible internet grammar. I mean, in person it's passable as english, but damn, get you behind a keyboard and i can't even get upset that you're wrong about tourings because I spend so much time trying to understand what the hell you're saying. also, you're kid is impractical as she does not have control arms.
    Originally posted by slammin.e28
    My kid has better control of her arms than an e30 touring.
    I don't even know lol

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  • NJ2.5rser
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    Ive made a few mcgiver presses with bottle jacks and some scrap steel. Very Possible to do if you have the stuff laying around. If not I recommend a really really big hammer, a friend who wont mind the possibility of breaking a finger or 2 and a lot of protein for the day. It is very possible to hammer the joints in and out yourself but YOU HAVE TO WANT IT!!! haha

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  • slammin.e28
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    Originally posted by McGyver
    you have fucking terrible internet grammar. I mean, in person it's passable as english, but damn, get you behind a keyboard and i can't even get upset that you're wrong about tourings because I spend so much time trying to understand what the hell you're saying. also, you're kid is impractical as she does not have control arms.
    My kid has better control of her arms than an e30 touring.

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  • McGyver
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    Originally posted by slammin.e28
    Turner is also the one selling the arms. Of course they'll tell you shit to persuade you into buying new ones.

    The only cars control arms bend on are e30 tourings......Jerry....and that's to fit them between the taillights that are one piece.
    you have fucking terrible internet grammar. I mean, in person it's passable as english, but damn, get you behind a keyboard and i can't even get upset that you're wrong about tourings because I spend so much time trying to understand what the hell you're saying. also, you're kid is impractical as she does not have control arms.

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  • slammin.e28
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    Turner is also the one selling the arms. Of course they'll tell you shit to persuade you into buying new ones.

    The only cars control arms bend on are e30 tourings......Jerry....and that's to fit them between the taillights that are one piece.

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  • McGyver
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    Originally posted by camshaftgsxr
    "Control arms also take abuse from impacts and handling forces. Aluminum control arms will generally bend and prevent an accurate alignment. Steel control arms will crack and fracture and require close inspection annually and replacement every 3-4 years."
    true, but they can also bend from an impact. a friend's car hit a curb at 80mph and his iron control arm was all bent up, not cracked. HOWEVER, constant stress from bad roads with stiff suspension will create stress fractures. This could corrode over time to allow the control arm to actually fracture, but we're talking a VERY long time.

    I'm just wondering how your control arms were bolted to the frame rail with AKG bushings while they were "bent over time", then you weren't able to bolt them back up again. Are you sure you didn't mess something up, like in an accident?

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  • camshaftgsxr
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    Originally posted by blunttech
    then they were bent
    Originally posted by nando
    yeah, they got bent from hitting something. they are forged steel, you don't just bend those over time.. If you think steel bends like that, you don't know anything about metallurgy.
    Originally posted by Thizzelle
    bent them after hitting a curb wawa
    then neither does turner motorsport

    http://www.turnermotorsport.com/BMW-...trol-arms.aspx

    "Control arms also take abuse from impacts and handling forces. Aluminum control arms will generally bend and prevent an accurate alignment. Steel control arms will crack and fracture and require close inspection annually and replacement every 3-4 years."

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  • Thizzelle
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    Originally posted by camshaftgsxr
    chances are if the ball joints are worn out then the control arms have bent out of shape over time. good chance they wont go back into the control arm bushings once you get the new ball joints back in them. my friends car was in my garage on jack stands for two weeks when we tried this because he had to order control arms.
    bent them after hitting a curb wawa

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  • nando
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    yeah, they got bent from hitting something. they are forged steel, you don't just bend those over time.. If you think steel bends like that, you don't know anything about metallurgy.

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  • blunttech
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    Originally posted by camshaftgsxr
    bullshit they don't, both control arms had flexed over time to the point where akg poly bushings wouldn't allow the lollipop to bolt back into the chassis, new control arms went in without a hitch. and before you say it, no the car had never been wrecked. maybe flexing your oem rubber bushings back into the factory mounting points works for you but that wont work for akg poly bushings. and on top of that the control arms that came off of my car (still had them in the scrap pile) measured differently from end to end than the new ones that went on his car.
    then they were bent

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