lol BMW

[nando]

sure, BMW is a business - it's a business built on selling a specific type of car. When they start selling FWD minivans and 5 different crossovers and 4,000lb "M" cars, they've lost the fucking plot. The fake engine noises pretty much illustrates exactly where BMW is these days.

as somebody in another forum stated, if BMW made BMW branded rocks, people would buy them and say they were awesome. But that doesn't mean they are good.

Honestly though, I've never understood the point of an M3 convertible - from any generation. That the M4 convertible is even that much more numb and pointless doesn't help anything.

BMW is riding on momentum from their past cars that people remember driving. They can't keep churning out cars that drive worse than a Camry, cost twice as much, and are as reliable as a 1990's Jaguar forever. We can deal with high costs and poor reliability if the things actually drive well. But they don't - you can get better handling & steering feel from a Lexus or a Mustang.

[Bahn360Photo]

M4 vert is meant for cruising and some comments the author wrote are just plain dumb.

i own an f80 m3 and can tell you that its way more fun and i can drive laps around "pure" cars that some of you guys are mentioning. i agree on steering feel vs e92 m3 but e30 m3 is cool to cruise but track time wont give you an adrenaline rush.

i have e30 vert and i love it, but not for a lot of things above mentioned but for what it is. classic look and feel. i wouldnt dare to compare to current 435 vert or m235 vert (same class cars in current era vs e30 era).

some are saying that bmw is diluting lineup and making crappy cars but realize that bmw is a business and not your personal performance shop. life goes on, does technology and competition. people want more gadgets, more power etc... and truth is that 99% of people dont track their cars so why build a pure track car when no one uses it for that purpose? a track car is not comfortable and annoying to drive on the street.

take a second to think in you were given 80k to buy a car, would u buy e30 m3 or f80? (and you cant pocket the difference)

again, i own both generations and love them both.

[ELVA164]

That "cars are not the Whopper" thing is dumb. Having an option list doesn't dilute a car's ability to be fun; it just allows your car to be more fun for you.

[Stanley Rockafella]

I've all but lost hope in BMW. They keep producing crappy cars, but yet people keep buying them.

sit tight my friend, things are-a-changin'

These same words you type are what many said about the big three back in the 70's and 80's. Look where that got them in the 80's thru 00's...that's right, suckin the hind tit hoping for handouts from the government in hopes to stay afloat.

[mbonder]

That's because for 95% of people buying a BMW new from the dealer, it's not about handling/suspension/brakes/engine performance or any other measurement that an enthusiast would employ. Buying a BMW has become only about it having a Roundel on the front and the back as well as some nonsensical nomenclature on the fenders or trunk not entirely related to the drivetrain.

[eur04lif3]

I've all but lost hope in BMW. They keep producing crappy cars, but yet people keep buying them.

I hear ya, same here. I am however interested in the M2, maybe, just maybe it will have some of the original DNA it it.

Never drove the M1, but sounded like it didn't have it either.

[stonea]

I've all but lost hope in BMW. They keep producing crappy cars, but yet people keep buying them.

[wannaBMthree]

The worst cars we drove this year

2015 M4 Convertible

Under the skin the latest BMW M3/M4 is just as special as previous versions. Too bad you can't tell by driving it. Granted, my time this year was in the classic poseur-mobile of the M lineup. I don't begrudge the convertible model's existence, but undoing all the weight savings and structural rigidity that goes into making the M4 what it is dulls the charm.

BMW's M cars, even the plushier recent models, used to give you goosebumps just pulling out of the driveway. With its unique engine, suspension, and lightweight bodywork, the current M4 convertible just feels like a 335i in a gaudy bodykit. The steering and shifter are video-game numb. The synthesized engine noise sounds like something from a 1980s-era Yamaha keyboard. And cars are not the Whopper. I don't want it my way through endless custom settings, I want it the way the engineers decided was the best way.

Any Autoblog staffer will testify that I hate the "old car was better" chorus that plagues automotive journalism. Technology, regulations, and consumer demands proceed like time and tide. Comparing different automotive epochs is as pointless as arguing if the 1992 Chicago Bulls are better than the current Sacramento Kings. So it's not that the M4 Convertible isn't as good as the car that came before it. It's simply not good

2015 BMW X4

You know BMW’s tagline, "The Ultimate Driving Machine?" Well, this isn’t it. This isn’t the ultimate anything machine. Maybe the ultimate stupidity machine. Maybe.

BMW is so focused on chasing niche segments these days that it’s moving farther and farther away from actually making good drivers’ cars. The X4 is a perfect example. It looks bad, drives like crap, has very little interior space, and is less functional than cheaper offerings like the 3 Series Sport Wagon or X3. There is literally no reason to buy the X4 over any other BMW, or anything else in the class.

Perhaps worst of all, the creation of the X4 means other automakers are going to follow suit. There’s a Mercedes GLC Coupe on the way. I’m sure Audi will come up with something, too. And every single one will be dumb. The end.