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  • beamR X
    Advanced Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 145

    #16
    I used to do it, long time ago. Now I rarely do it. I only do it when spirited driving and in anticipation of a corner where almost WOT may be required to exit a corner at the desired RPM.


    In DD I try and avoid doing it. Why? Simple, opposite torque loads:

    A.
    The increaset compresion does not help the engine, but that's small potatoes.

    B.
    The clutch generally likes engaging in one direction. When you downshift, it works against it's normal direction.

    C.
    All motor mounts, tranny mounts are designed to effectively handle torque in one direction. Again, downshifting fucks them up.

    D. Differential gear R&P toe and hill contact is reversed when downshifting.... blah, blah, blah...


    Need I go on?
    (.Y.) R cool.
    Falco rocks!

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    • Jand3rson
      Banned
      • Oct 2003
      • 37587

      #17
      Originally posted by MR 325
      I always do rev matched downshifts, no exceptions.
      I do it as much as possible. I'm still practicing, and still getting it down, but I'm getting better.

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      • dirty30
        No R3VLimiter
        • Jul 2004
        • 3005

        #18
        I do it. I also redline it religiously... any poll for that?

        where is the "rob" option...?

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        • RobertK
          Kicked cancer's ASS.
          • Jun 2005
          • 5864

          #19
          eh.. Depends on lazy I feel when I'm driving. Sometimes I downshift sometime I coast it and downshift.. Rev matching seems like such a waste unless you're on the track giving hell otherwise it's too much to worry about when I'm driving through town.

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          • !RocknE30!
            E30 Addict
            • Sep 2004
            • 475

            #20
            Originally posted by rwdrift
            Downshift by rev matching all the time.
            Same here.

            91 318is | 98 Z3 M Roadster | 97 FZJ80

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            • nando
              Moderator
              • Nov 2003
              • 34827

              #21
              I will if the situation calls for it, but I'd rather use my brakes than wear on engine/tranny mounts and my clutch.
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              Bimmerlabs

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              • beamR X
                Advanced Member
                • Apr 2006
                • 145

                #22
                Originally posted by dirty30
                I ... redline it religiously... any poll for that?
                X2
                Oh, yah!!! That, I do!
                (.Y.) R cool.
                Falco rocks!

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                • E30isGIRL
                  Official R3V Girl
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 159

                  #23
                  downshifter
                  ~Jessica~
                  "The liver is Evil, It must be punished!"

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                  • Koony
                    Wrencher
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 261

                    #24
                    Downshifter, but I'll skip around alot. If your driving fast enough you'll be using either brakes or throttle.;)
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                    • CleanAzzE30z
                      R3V OG
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 11794

                      #25
                      Its not about your engine....Its about clutch wear when you talk abotu cons of downshifting. I do it a lot when I drive the ///M3, its just too tempting and its an event when I drive that car. but the 325, I sometimes do it. Its all about the emotion and the moment for me.

                      Mariano


                      2001 Titaniumsilber 540i Sport 6-Speed
                      1990 Diamantschwarz Alpha-N 2.5L ///M3
                      1986 Alpinweiss 325e M50B25 (R.I.P.)

                      -Talk to me when more sound comes from the induction than from the exhaust...

                      -Argentina........lo mas grande que hay.

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                      • Van Westervelt
                        R3V OG
                        • May 2006
                        • 9365

                        #26
                        Downshifting and letting your RPMs slow you down puts your engine into a "braking" mode, where you arent using more gas, its actually overly efficient when "braking." If you dont match the rev's, you are putting added stress on your clutch and it will wear out. If you dont downshift correctly, you will pay for it in repairs, so just use your good ole brakes until you know what you are doing :) I downshift and rev match 75% of the time, as to anticipate idiots and lights turning green.
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                        • CleanAzzE30z
                          R3V OG
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 11794

                          #27
                          Originally posted by e30 Groupie
                          Downshifting and letting your RPMs slow you down puts your engine into a "braking" mode, where you arent using more gas, its actually overly efficient when "braking." If you dont match the rev's, you are putting added stress on your clutch and it will wear out. If you dont downshift correctly, you will pay for it in repairs, so just use your good ole brakes until you know what you are doing :) I downshift and rev match 75% of the time, as to anticipate idiots and lights turning green.
                          yes


                          2001 Titaniumsilber 540i Sport 6-Speed
                          1990 Diamantschwarz Alpha-N 2.5L ///M3
                          1986 Alpinweiss 325e M50B25 (R.I.P.)

                          -Talk to me when more sound comes from the induction than from the exhaust...

                          -Argentina........lo mas grande que hay.

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                          • Justin B
                            Sikky Nar Nar
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 4273

                            #28
                            Most of the time, so I said all the time. I downshift when coming to a stop sign.. some people wonder why. I enjoy it. Of course blipping, letting the engine/clutch/tranny do that work is bad mmkay?

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                            • ldsbeaker
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 3098

                              #29
                              I downshift by revmatching all the time, AND redline it every day.

                              p.s. My goal around most corners is NOT to touch the brakes.
                              Slicktop City!

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                              • Kilomph
                                E30 Addict
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 599

                                #30
                                Your supposed to be in gear at all times while moving. I usually wind down 3rd and skip second when coming to an inevitable stop. The rest of the time i'm always rev matching and engine braking. Once you get good enough all the rest of that wear bs goes out the window. Yes brakes are cheap , but what's the fun in that? It's such a satisfying feeling performing a smooth quick downshift.
                                Last edited by Kilomph; 10-08-2006, 01:52 PM.

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