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    #46
    Originally posted by Eurospeed View Post
    I do it as much as possible. I'm still practicing, and still getting it down, but I'm getting better.
    qft

    EDIT - Talking about myself as well.
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      #47
      All I know is that for a few weeks I stopped downshifting and I saved a noticeable amount of gas.

      Mariano


      2001 Titaniumsilber 540i Sport 6-Speed
      1990 Diamantschwarz Alpha-N 2.5L ///M3
      1986 Alpinweiss 325e M50B25 (R.I.P.)

      -Talk to me when more sound comes from the induction than from the exhaust...

      -Argentina........lo mas grande que hay.

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        #48
        I always downshift, but it's always rev-matched (clutch in, neutral, clutch out, blip throttle, clutch in, next gear, clutch out)

        And sometimes I throw some braking in there too. Gotta love the heel-toe action...
        Eric Austin
        1990 325i Sterling Silver
        ///M3 CABs | ///M3 strut bearings | Bavarian Autosport springs | UUC Race Shifter | UUC Clutch Stop

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          #49
          Originally posted by e30 gangsta View Post
          Clutchless rev matches to me sound like they have to do some kind of damage to the driveline.
          Only if you grind it. Watch a big rig driver, the good ones only use the clutch coming from a complete stop.

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            #50
            Originally posted by markseven View Post
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            Unless you are running straight-cut gears, your tranny and dif (pretty much the entire drivetrain) are designed to transmit torque in one direction. Just my $.02 :D
            Ha, ha!
            I think you and Nando are the only people who caugth on to my R&P hill and toe statement. Most I think, thougth I was talking about pedals...

            I cannot believe how many guys slow the car down by downshifting... :crazy:Whatever...
            (.Y.) R cool.
            Falco rocks!

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              #51
              A lot of automatics here have a problem with warping rotors. I've replaced the rotors on my cousins 04 tacoma twice. Their 02 suzuki has been 2 or 3 times. Like I said earlier, I just replaced my first set of pads in 4 years.

              I bet they wish they could downshift.

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                #52
                Anyone here with a stock 318is motor can answer yes, we downshift constantly, because the motor STRUGGLES if you don't.

                Haha, low rpms, a/c blowing, and a hill are three things 318iS's don't do at the same time.
                Reminiscing...

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by M42Technik View Post
                  Anyone here with a stock 318is motor can answer yes, we downshift constantly, because the motor STRUGGLES if you don't.

                  Haha, low rpms, a/c blowing, and a hill are three things 318iS's don't do at the same time.
                  Understandable. That's different. You do down shift to a lowr gear to get more acceleration... Of course you will do that, espetially with a 1.8:p
                  The original question was about "using engine as a break" kinda thing...
                  (.Y.) R cool.
                  Falco rocks!

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by CleanAzzE30z View Post
                    All I know is that for a few weeks I stopped downshifting and I saved a noticeable amount of gas.

                    Mariano
                    Accually your car will use less gas if you keep it in gear or downshift.
                    If you simply put the car in nuetral and coast to a stop, your motor is using a little bit of gas. If you keep the car in gear until you stop, your car isn't using any gas.

                    -erik

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                      #55
                      i just about always match rev downshift at all times... and sometimes left foot brake for fun.
                      PNW Crew
                      90 m3
                      06 m5

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by erik325i View Post
                        Accually your car will use less gas if you keep it in gear or downshift.
                        If you simply put the car in nuetral and coast to a stop, your motor is using a little bit of gas. If you keep the car in gear until you stop, your car isn't using any gas.

                        -erik
                        What? If you are in neutral, the engine is at idle - if you down shift, your engine doesn't shut off, does it? Fuel is consumed in both scenarios.
                        I Timothy 2:1-2

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by markseven View Post
                          What? If you are in neutral, the engine is at idle - if you down shift, your engine doesn't shut off, does it? Fuel is consumed in both scenarios.
                          In neutral, the injectors are firing a small amount of fuel to keep your car on.
                          If you downshift, the engine cuts all fuel (to slow you down). If it kept pumping fuel, downshifting wouldn't do anything, it would coast like a diesel.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by markseven View Post
                            What? If you are in neutral, the engine is at idle - if you down shift, your engine doesn't shut off, does it? Fuel is consumed in both scenarios.
                            your car is always consuming fuel when its on!!

                            when i am slowing my car down, i used to downshift all the time...till killed my new clutch....but that was in a 3000gt vr4...and improper shifting came into play too...
                            that car is awd too, just like my ix...and those vr4s tend to have a lot of tranny issues....so in my case driving awd cars i like to save my clutch as much as possible...also cause its not cheap replacing a clutch and i have yet to do one...and those drivetrains have lots of parts in em

                            my ix is being put together and i just got a new clutch installed....i believe i will not be downshifting very much and using the brakes more often...but i will still be practicing r3v matched downshifts..when coming out of corners and stuff or to accelerate if neccessary...but mostly will be using brakes until i can really get the downshifting, down


                            anyone here have a clutch stop ?? im pondering getting one....but cant really think how it works?? is it where you kinda set it at a certain engagement point and prevent the pedal from going all the way to the floor, for quicker shifts? wouldn;t that increase wear on a clutch?

                            also who here when comming to a stop, before rolling off, keeps their car in gear with the clutch pushed in...even sitting at a red light....does that create any wear on a clutch?? as opposed to just putting it in neutral...until the light turns green then putting it in gear??
                            e30s r kool

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by 808BMW View Post
                              In neutral, the injectors are firing a small amount of fuel to keep your car on.
                              If you downshift, the engine cuts all fuel (to slow you down). If it kept pumping fuel, downshifting wouldn't do anything, it would coast like a diesel.
                              So what you are saying is the engine knows you have downshifted and cuts fuel delivery?

                              No fuel = engine not firing = no power steering, no power brakes...

                              I think you are mistaken
                              I Timothy 2:1-2

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by 808BMW View Post
                                In neutral, the injectors are firing a small amount of fuel to keep your car on.
                                If you downshift, the engine cuts all fuel (to slow you down). If it kept pumping fuel, downshifting wouldn't do anything, it would coast like a diesel.

                                oh damn my bad, really? i never knew that...so are you saying when you let off the accelerator...your not using any gas? i thought engines had to inject fuel and a spark in order to rev....
                                e30s r kool

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