BMW Braking Advantage - why?

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  • rscheiring
    E30 Enthusiast
    • Jan 2004
    • 1014

    #1

    BMW Braking Advantage - why?

    I was watching a tape of the Rolex series race last night, with the PTG M3 outbreaking every car on the track, Porches and DP cars alike. So, why is that? I'm thinking it isn't rotor size, and I doubt its weight. Is that car just that much better balanced and set up?
    A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do- Walter Gagehot

  • bimmerphile
    No R3VLimiter
    • Oct 2003
    • 3495

    #2
    One of BMW's "motto's": The brakes and suspension must be faster than the car.


    :-)
    My mountains are better than yours.

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    • Jon325i
      R3V OG
      • Oct 2003
      • 6934

      #3
      What would you rather race...

      A. a car with gobs of horsepower and decent suspension & brakes

      or...

      B. a car that has good power with confidence-inspiring suspension & brakes

      I would prefer the latter. To coin a Pirelli Tire ad..."Power Is Nothing Without Control."

      Jon
      Rides...
      1991 325i - sold :(
      2004 2WD Frontier King Cab

      RIP #17 Jules Bianchi

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      • rs4pro3
        R3V Elite
        • Oct 2003
        • 5808

        #4
        It may have to do with the caliper placement. BMW's have the calipers mounted on the Trailing edge of the rotor where as most cars on the road have the calipers mounted on the Leading edge.
        85 325e 2.7 ITB'd stroker

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        • Bill 84 318i
          E30 Mastermind
          • Oct 2003
          • 1600

          #5



          :D

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          • Low Level E30
            Banned
            • Oct 2003
            • 1646

            #6
            Originally posted by rs4pro3
            It may have to do with the caliper placement. BMW's have the calipers mounted on the Trailing edge of the rotor where as most cars on the road have the calipers mounted on the Leading edge.
            What difference does that make, on a circular brake disc rotor?

            I'm asking - not criticizing or calling BS.

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            • rs4pro3
              R3V Elite
              • Oct 2003
              • 5808

              #7
              When you apply the brakes the caliper will push against the suspension on a bmw, where as with another car when you hit the brakes the momentum of the wheel will pull the suspension cuasing the car to nose dive slightly. I can tell the difference from hitting the brakes on my car and my mom's toyota, here car just dives when you hit the brakes.
              85 325e 2.7 ITB'd stroker

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              • Jand3rson
                Banned
                • Oct 2003
                • 37587

                #8
                Originally posted by Bill 84 318i



                :D
                Jeezus jumped-up Christ....

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                • e30sam
                  Advanced Member
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 170

                  #9
                  Ya those pics look like my setup. :shock:

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                  • Rob
                    Moderator
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 8166

                    #10
                    perhaps it has something to do with the cycle of weight penalties.....maybe the m3s were light that day? i dunno, does Rolex even use weight penalties?
                    BEERTECH

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                    • Low Level E30
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 1646

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rob
                      perhaps it has something to do with the cycle of weight penalties.....maybe the m3s were light that day? i dunno, does Rolex even use weight penalties?
                      Weight is certainly a tool/weapon/penalty of Speed GT --- remember the boys (Auberlen, Said, Stuck, Marks and Miller) racing for Team PTG last year with 150lbs of ballast?

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