Anyone want to see a REAL radar detector test?

[StereoInstaller1]

Michael Valentine was making radar detection for Cincinatti Microwave DURING vietnam. Dont call bullshit and list Craig Peterson as any Credible source of information.

Once again, you are talking out of your ass. I will call BULLSHIT, because Viet Nam ended in 1975...Read this: Michael Valentine and his father started Cincinatti Microwave in 1976.

So, NO, you are WRONG....don't call bullshit on me! And even after his "alledged hijinx" regarding the guys of LIDAR, (what a dumb move that was, shit!) the facts the Mr. Peterson wrote of Michael Valentine getting fired from the company HE started are well known, and public record.

So, once again, do your research before you speak. Cincinatti Microwave started in '76, 'Nam ended in '75. Easy math, OK?

Luke

[Jscotty]

There is an easy way to settle this- Go to your local thrift shop and get a couple of popular science magazines from 1974 to see if they are advertised. My uncle was a car dealer back then and he had one in his car.

[Funkmasta]

regardless... lets not get this thread locked.

[Bimmernaut]

that link tells me nothing except biz. facts on there closing.

http://www.radarbusters.com/landing/radar-detector-cincinnati-microwave.asp

Cinncinati Microwave was NOT started that late.

i am done.

sorry all for threadjacking.

[E30Driv3R]

[Bimmernaut]

:hitler:






hahaha.

[whakiewes]

Luke,

I have had a K40 installed in a Jetta (mighty fast one), a Porsche 993, and a Mercedes E320. Never once did it stand a chance to my V1 at the time. K40 has not updated there sytem in a number of years, theys till don't offer POP protection, and while their K detection is superior, the KA was much lacking in the cars I drove. The K40 was designed to be sleek and covert, in turn giving up some of its usefullness. I have yet to be happy in a K40 installed car, infact all the above cars recieved other detectors.

I would also like to note that K40 has two different systems; one is a standard windshield mount piece and one is a concealed display system. When caravaning to a meet a couple of years ago, a good friend with his K40 was behind me (we were being rediculously stupid) when my V1 shined 2 KA bogeys ahead. I dumped my brakes considering the speed we were going, which was immediately followed by a Nextel "WTF was that asshole". About that time we rolled by two State Troopers sitting in a median. His radar didn't go off until the troopers were in clear visibility.

I don't have any K40 concealed/V1 comparisons, but the K40 just generally annoys me. Its beeps are much higher pitched then the V1's and it provides little to no difference IMO. I have used an 8500X50 and it was good IMO, but the arrows frustrated me. "Once you live with the arrows, you will never go back".

Wes

[E30Driv3R]

V1>everything

[Kruzen]

Once again, you are talking out of your ass. I will call BULLSHIT, because Viet Nam ended in 1975...Read this: Michael Valentine and his father started Cincinatti Microwave in 1976.

So, NO, you are WRONG....don't call bullshit on me! And even after his "alledged hijinx" regarding the guys of LIDAR, (what a dumb move that was, shit!) the facts the Mr. Peterson wrote of Michael Valentine getting fired from the company HE started are well known, and public record.

So, once again, do your research before you speak. Cincinatti Microwave started in '76, 'Nam ended in '75. Easy math, OK?

Luke

Not to walk on your experience as an ICE/Radar installer cause I know you certainly have it(and are excellent at it to boot), but its certainly plausible for someone to work on technology without it belonging to a business.

Most products that are new to the market are engineered in someones basement/home lab, and then once they have a working idea, a business is formed for patent and liability purposes.

[silversleeper]

V1>everything

Laser Interceptor > V1 > Everything.

[StereoInstaller1]

OK, so let me set my end of this straight:

1. I want to see a test of radar detectors that includes K40. I really like the invisibility factor, and would like to see if they are as good as they say.

2. I clearly remember "the hot new radar detector" coming out called Escort. Read about it in all the magazines, etc. I had been installing K40s for several years by then, as well as their amplifiers and speakers. K40 was supposed to be the shit...once again, I never saw the two of them compared head to head.

3. Michael Valentine MAY have been desigining radar detectors before 1976, but the article I posted a link to states clearly that Michael and his father started Cincinatti Microwave in 1976. That article is featured in the Cincinatti Business Journal. The final paragraph on the first page:

In that initial public offering, CMI sold nearly 1.9 million shares at $7.62 per share, drumming up $13 million in cash. Most of that went to pay off debt in the form of a loan used to buy out shares owned by Mike Valentine, according to the company's 1985 annual report. Valentine and his father had founded the firm in 1976.

So, here is the deal: I have never owned a radar detector, ever.

I have installed dozens of BEL, hardwired (hard to call that an install) several V1s and about 20 or so K40s. $1800 radar detectors are kind of rare...

I can sign up as a dealer for Calibre (the new name for K40) with nothing more than a phone call...but I do not know if they are top of the heap still.

From what I am hearing here, they are not...thus the reason I want to hear about it from the real testers.

I am very dissapointed to hear Wes's experience...it is a shame they didnt perform as well as the V1. I am not doubting his experience in any way, I am just dissapointed.

K40 has incredible dealer support, better than anyone I have ever had in any product category, ever. I would really like to carry their product...unless they suck.

As far as the hassle between Bimmernaut and myself, well, this is the internet, right? He believes one thing, the Cincinatti Business Journal publishes another. We all know the media is kind of cracked, but I will take their word for it.

Sorry if I ruffled any feathers.

Luke

[whakiewes]

Luke,

No dissapointments needed. The K40/Calibre is a great system, and in its hayday it was the best IMO. I just don't think they have kept up the same standards. In 1995, if you wanted protection, you went K40 or else. Valentine and Escort were just standard issue detectors. In today's world though, Radar and Laser are becoming so sensative that companies are constantly having to redevelop to keep up. I just don't get that feeling from K40. I too would like to see a real world test, but just as you said getting a car to test with an $1800 radar system isn't an easy task, and im sure K40 isn't just handing systems out.

You find a modern K40 equipped car, and I will ship my V1 (1.8+POP) to the location for real world testing. I would go with a K40 if they had a better audible signal and if it picked up as well IMO.

Wes

[Funkmasta]

Picked up the Pro-Park, will let you guys know the results! I'm sure I will get popped with Laser on the trip to Bimmerfest.

Also, I think a guy is going to bring a lidar gun to the E30 picnic. :)

[Funkmasta]

Oh mama

[Kruzen]

Is that laser only? How useless :\ Hopefully thats got some radar protection in there.