Disappointing dyno results

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  • lukasbmw
    Mod Crazy
    • Oct 2003
    • 651

    #1

    Disappointing dyno results

    I'll have to post the graph tomorrow, but the results are:

    176 RWHP
    156 RWT

    My M50 put down 162 RWHP/156 RWT with just an intake and super sprint e30 exhaust.

    I have since added M3 cams, and the M3 cam chip (Conforti software).

    M50TU's with intake, M3 cams, proper software, and open exhaust typically make 230-240hp at the crank. Therefore I was expecting 230 crank hp as my exhaust system still needs to be opened up.

    With a 15% drivetrain loss factor my numbers equal about 208 crank hp and 183 crank tq. Nothing to brag about.

    The car was running very lean at first which really makes me question the conforti software (others who were running conforti software also were running lean). My Air Fuel curve only reached a safe level once I bumped up the fuel pressure to 58PSI (from stock 44psi). The bump in fuel pressure definitely improved drivability. That said, my air/fuel curve is pretty goddamn flat which I'm obviously happy about. The air/fuel curve on my modded m20 was up and down like whore on X jumping up and down on a waterbed.

    Next step:

    Cut off the cat
    Install the aluminum manifolds
    Get a new fuel pressure regulator

    Re-dyno and hope my numbers improve. I want to see at least 230 crank hp from this bitch.

    Other notable pulls:

    E36 M3 3.2 with intake/exhaust/software 216RWHP
    E36 M3 3.2 stock 208 RWHP
    M42 powered e21 122RWHP
    James (M42-technic) 0RWHP :)

    Dyno was a ground mounted dynojet.
    2004 SL600 - Current
    ------------------------
    2006 SL55 AMG - Sold
    2004 M3 SMG - Sold
    1999 540i Sport - Sold :(
    1989 325i coupe- Sold
    1988 325is M50 M-tec - Sold :(
  • windsor318is
    Mod Crazy
    • Mar 2004
    • 688

    #2
    WTF, sorry dude but with the stuff you got done thats fucken horrible. concider getting a custom burnt chip yet??

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    • Rob
      Moderator
      • Oct 2003
      • 8166

      #3
      show graphs, peak numbers are not very usefull. what kind of dyno also
      BEERTECH

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      • nando
        Moderator
        • Nov 2003
        • 34827

        #4
        maybe you just need more fuel, like an AFPR or larger injectors. how many miles are on the engine?

        stu is the king of M/S50 motors around here, maybe he'll have some tips.
        Build thread

        Bimmerlabs

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        • lukasbmw
          Mod Crazy
          • Oct 2003
          • 651

          #5




          I had to take a picture of the printed graph as I do not have a scanner.
          2004 SL600 - Current
          ------------------------
          2006 SL55 AMG - Sold
          2004 M3 SMG - Sold
          1999 540i Sport - Sold :(
          1989 325i coupe- Sold
          1988 325is M50 M-tec - Sold :(

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          • lukasbmw
            Mod Crazy
            • Oct 2003
            • 651

            #6
            As said before, dyno was a dyno jet. There are about 80,000 miles on the engine
            2004 SL600 - Current
            ------------------------
            2006 SL55 AMG - Sold
            2004 M3 SMG - Sold
            1999 540i Sport - Sold :(
            1989 325i coupe- Sold
            1988 325is M50 M-tec - Sold :(

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            • Stu Mc
              R3V Elite
              • Oct 2003
              • 4083

              #7
              Erik, don't get too discouraged. Those are pretty good numbers. 176 x 1.21 (dynojet conversion) is about 213 crank HP. That's about 20 more horses than your previous dyno. Are your cams properly timed? On a cold, winter day, you'd put down several more horses.

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              • Jonathan M3
                E30 Mastermind
                • Oct 2003
                • 1837

                #8
                What kind of valve springs are your running, Eric? I'm not an expert on m50/s50's but it almost looks like you're starting to float the valves past 6k.

                '05 E46 M3 Imolarot/Cinnamon - CURRENT
                '98 E36 M3 Estorilblau/Dove - SOLD
                '90 E30 M3 Brilliantrot/Black - SOLD
                SRS BSNS Motorsports - 24hrs of LeMons Racer

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                • Rob
                  Moderator
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 8166

                  #9
                  looks like some tuning is in order, although the AF plot looks ultra smooth, hmmmm
                  BEERTECH

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                  • bmw335ist
                    Advanced Member
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 100

                    #10
                    That sucks I would be mad!!!!

                    I now about hard work My e30 shoule be around 220-240 hp and dinans graph said 260-270 ft tq ( I am not thanking so) but at least 245 ft tq at the fly wheel.

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                    • latinobimmer
                      Wrencher
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 226

                      #11
                      Re: That sucks I would be mad!!!!

                      Originally posted by bmw335ist
                      I now about hard work My e30 shoule be around 220-240 hp and dinans graph said 260-270 ft tq ( I am not thanking so) but at least 245 ft tq at the fly wheel.
                      Jordan's right, you really do suck at writing.

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                      • bmw335ist
                        Advanced Member
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 100

                        #12
                        well what can I say I dont write.

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                        • graphik
                          Grease Monkey
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 361

                          #13
                          when did your education stop?

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                          • Rob
                            Moderator
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 8166

                            #14
                            stop getting off topic
                            BEERTECH

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                            • rwh11385
                              lance_entities
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 18403

                              #15
                              Can we stop making fun of poor english skills and get back to Lukas' engine? Just let him keep loving cars and don't bug him about grammar!

                              Eric, it's sad to be disappointed like that. 213 is not quite where you'd hope to be I know, but still better than 12V!

                              If more tuning is in order, Gunni does have that GB for a SMT6 that would help I think. Or maybe Jonathan has something. I think M3 cams recommended the install of double valve springs, where vanos had single spring I thought.

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