FYI: Solving the 5 lug swap problem (centered wheel)

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  • mpowerjon
    Member
    • Nov 2003
    • 44

    #16
    This will help center the wheel properly, especially if you use 17" wheels or larger.
    The 5 lug for E30 IS worked out.. Meaning E36 front brakes and knuckles, struts etc. you just have to know how to do it.

    Jon Siccardi
    Treehouseracing.com

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    • Jordan
      R3V OG
      • Oct 2003
      • 12907

      #17
      Haha.. talk about a solid CAB! There isnt one lol.
      Tenured Automotive Service Professional - Avid BMW Enthusiast

      Vapor Honing & E30 ABS Pump Refurbishment Service
      https://mtechniqueabs.com/

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      • mpowerjon
        Member
        • Nov 2003
        • 44

        #18
        :D
        HAHAHA! Yes.. Did I mention that? LOL It's solid... and offset if you are wondering. I forgot to picture the bushings... Nylon-Moly inserts. These are a breeze to install and come with a LT warranty. Street and track use. $150.

        Hmmmm.. that just turned into a shameless plug. is that ok around here?

        Thanks,
        Jon

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        • Jordan
          R3V OG
          • Oct 2003
          • 12907

          #19
          Originally posted by mpowerjon
          Hmmmm.. that just turned into a shameless plug. is that ok around here?
          Only if the forum owner is provided with a free product which he may use and endorse as needed.
          Tenured Automotive Service Professional - Avid BMW Enthusiast

          Vapor Honing & E30 ABS Pump Refurbishment Service
          https://mtechniqueabs.com/

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          • Bill 84 318i
            E30 Mastermind
            • Oct 2003
            • 1600

            #20
            Originally posted by mpowerjon
            This will help center the wheel properly, especially if you use 17" wheels or larger.
            Jon Siccardi
            Treehouseracing.com

            Oh shit, so I'm screwed with my 15's.

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            • mpowerjon
              Member
              • Nov 2003
              • 44

              #21
              No.. why would you be? 15's are fine.

              Jon

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              • mpowerjon
                Member
                • Nov 2003
                • 44

                #22
                Originally posted by Jordan
                Only if the forum owner is provided with a free product which he may use and endorse as needed.
                Hmmmmmm <sarcasm> I wonder how I would ever find out who that is..

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                • Bill 84 318i
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 1600

                  #23
                  I'm just joking. You said the wheel would be centered 'especially if you have 17's' as if the diameter of the wheel would make a difference.

                  If I went 5 lug, it'd be e30 m3 or bust.

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                  • mpowerjon
                    Member
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 44

                    #24
                    ahh... see the larger the outer diameter of the wheel/tire combo gets, the more it exaggerates that the hub is not far enough forward.

                    I just can't see using E30 m3 parts at all. the E36 M3 brakes are sooooooo much better and with rotors for $60 each I can't pass that up. I install this combo a lot. Also you can use E36 325i if you want to stay with 15" wheels.

                    Jon

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                    • Jay Stock E30
                      Advanced Member
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 154

                      #25
                      Sweet action!

                      you have mail

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                      • 65Matt
                        Advanced Member
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 172

                        #26
                        Jon,
                        Great solution! You know what your website needs? A detailed description of the parts required to do the swap. Since you've done several installations, you could clear up a lot of confusion. I'd buy a pair of those brackets if I knew what else I need to buy to get it to work.

                        Jordan, Im not sure if those are your slotted control arm brackets or someone else's. I think it's worth repeating that this is not a viable solution. If you slam on the brakes hard (the whole point of the conversion), it's possible that the bracket could slip back into it's original position. That would put your front end into a dangerous toe-out condition, shooting your car left or right, depending on which bracket gives.

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                        • Jay Stock E30
                          Advanced Member
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 154

                          #27
                          Originally posted by 65Matt
                          Jon,
                          Great solution! You know what your website needs? A detailed description of the parts required to do the swap. Since you've done several installations, you could clear up a lot of confusion. I'd buy a pair of those brackets if I knew what else I need to buy to get it to work.

                          Jordan, Im not sure if those are your slotted control arm brackets or someone else's. I think it's worth repeating that this is not a viable solution. If you slam on the brakes hard (the whole point of the conversion), it's possible that the bracket could slip back into it's original position. That would put your front end into a dangerous toe-out condition, shooting your car left or right, depending on which bracket gives.
                          I aggree!

                          Anyway I have a set of these in the mail, and I'll be doing a full tech writeup with pics once the install is done.

                          All I need is the 318ti t-arms ...hint hint, if anybody has any leads for me. :D

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                          • bert
                            Grease Monkey
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 306

                            #28
                            i've known mpower jon for about 8 years and trust me,
                            he KNOWS the e30 like the back of his hand...he does
                            5 lug and M50 conversions in his sleep...he's been
                            wrenching on the side for some time and recently took
                            the plunge and went full-time with his own shop,
                            Treehouse Racing...

                            he does most of my work...

                            i've asked him to check out the forum in the past, but
                            he usually stays away from the forums because most
                            of them are light on info and heavy on the bullshit...be
                            glad he's coming around, he'll be able to provide a wealth
                            of info...

                            unfortunately...he's so busy with word of mouth referrals
                            that his website is in need of serious help...

                            bert

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                            • mpowerjon
                              Member
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 44

                              #29
                              Originally posted by 65Matt
                              Jon,
                              Great solution! You know what your website needs? A detailed description of the parts required to do the swap. Since you've done several installations, you could clear up a lot of confusion. I'd buy a pair of those brackets if I knew what else I need to buy to get it to work.
                              I know I know I know!!!!!!
                              :?
                              Thanks for the input, it's hard juggling the different aspects of a rapidly growing business, you're right. I have been slowly chipping away at the site... just recently put up the Roll Cage section. I guess I need to hurry up and get some 5 lug info up and M50 conversion stuff.

                              Originally posted by 65Matt
                              Jordan, Im not sure if those are your slotted control arm brackets or someone else's. I think it's worth repeating that this is not a viable solution. If you slam on the brakes hard (the whole point of the conversion), it's possible that the bracket could slip back into it's original position. That would put your front end into a dangerous toe-out condition, shooting your car left or right, depending on which bracket gives.
                              yikes. yes. This is quite possible.

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                              • mpowerjon
                                Member
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 44

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Jay Stock E30

                                I aggree!

                                Anyway I have a set of these in the mail, and I'll be doing a full tech writeup with pics once the install is done.

                                All I need is the 318ti t-arms ...hint hint, if anybody has any leads for me. :D
                                Jay - I just got a set of 318ti trailing arms today. call or email to discuss details if you or anyone is interested.

                                Jon
                                615-500-1331

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