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  • Raxe
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    Multiple impact points.

    We throw away a lot of cracked/pitted BMW windshields, so I'll occasionally hurl a brake pad at an old one for entertainment and I've never had one go through a windshield. Heck, not even a brake rotor will go through it.

    But like many things, I'm sure there is a certain "sweet spot" on a windshield that, if punched correctly, will go through or shatter.

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  • teamgtnfx01
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    Originally posted by Brinkley
    Yea. i am letting it bug me a bit too much. I'm done.
    yeah just a little

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  • Brinkley
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    Yea. i am letting it bug me a bit too much. I'm done.

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  • teamgtnfx01
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    Originally posted by Brinkley
    Basically the guy's saying he could do this by punching the guy's car. Thats bullshit.
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    "Glass windshields first appeared around 1905 with the invention of safety glass—glass tempered (tempering is a heat treatment) to make it especially hard and resistant to shattering. This type of windshield was popular well into the middle of the century, but it was eventually replaced by windshields made of laminated glass—a multilayer unit consisting of a plastic layer surrounded by two sheets of glass. In many countries, including the U.S., auto windshields are required by law to be made of laminated glass. Laminated glass can bend slightly under impact and is less likely to shatter than normal safety glass. This quality reduces the risk of injury to the automobile's passengers."
    "Raw Materials

    Glass is composed of numerous oxides that fuse and react together upon heating to form a glass. These include silica (SiO2), sodium oxide (Na2O), and calcium oxide (CaO). Raw materials from which these materials are derived are sand, soda ash (Na2CO3), and limestone (CaCO3). Soda ash acts as a flux; in other words, it lowers the melting point of the batch composition. Lime is added to the batch in order to improve the hardness and chemical durability of the glass. Glass used for windshields also usually contains several other oxides: potassium oxide (K2O derived from potash), magnesium oxide (MgO), and aluminum oxide (AI2O3 derived from feldspar).
    The Manufacturing Process

    * 1 The raw materials are carefully weighed in the appropriate amounts and mixed together with a small amount of water to prevent segregation of the ingredients. Cullet (broken waste glass) is also used as a raw material.
    * 2 Once the batch is made, it is fed to a large tank for melting using the float glass process. First, the batch is heated to a molten state, and then it is fed into a tank called the float chamber, which holds a bath of molten tin. The float chamber is very large—from about 13 feet to 26.25 feet (4 to 8 meters wide and up to almost 197 feet (60 meters) long; at its entrance, the temperature of the tin is about 1,835 degrees Fahrenheit (1,000 degrees Celsius), while at the exit the tin's temperature is slightly cooler—1,115 degrees Fahrenheit (600 degrees Celsius). In the float chamber, the glass doesn't submerge into the tin but floats on top of it, moving through the tank as though on a conveyor belt. The perfectly flat surface of the tin causes the molten glass also to become flat, while the high temperatures clean the glass of impurities. The decreased temperature at the exit of the chamber allows the glass to harden enough to move into the next chamber, a furnace.
    * 3 After the glass exits from the float chamber, rollers pick it up and feed it into a special furnace called a lehr. (If any solar coatings are desired, they are applied before the glass enters the lehr.) In this furnace, the glass is cooled gradually to about 395 degrees Fahrenheit (200 degrees Celsius); after the glass exits the lehr, it cools to room temperature. It is now very hard and strong and ready to be cut.

    Cutting and tempering

    * 4 The glass is cut into the desired dimensions using a diamond scribe—a tool with sharp metal points containing diamond dust. Diamond is used because it is harder than glass. The scribe marks a cut line into the glass, which is then broken or snapped at this line. This step is usually automated and is monitored by cameras and optoelectronic measuring systems. Next, the cut piece must be bent into shape. The sheet of glass is placed into a form or mold of metal or refractory material. The glass-filled mold is then heated in a furnace to the point where the glass sags to the shape of the mold.
    * 5 After this shaping step, the glass must be hardened in a heating step called tempering. First, the glass is quickly heated to about 1,565 degrees Fahrenheit (850 degrees Celsius), and then it is blasted with jets of cold air. Called quenching, this process toughens the glass by putting the outer surface into compression and the inside into tension. This allows the windshield, when damaged, to break into many small pieces of glass without sharp edges. The size of the pieces can also be changed by modifying the tempering procedure so that the windshield breaks into larger pieces, allowing good vision until the wind-shield can be replaced.

    Laminating

    * 6 After the glass is tempered and cleaned, it goes through a laminating process. In this process, two sheets of glass are bonded together with a layer of plastic (the plastic layer goes inside the two glass sheets). The lamination takes place in an autoclave, a special oven that uses both heat and pressure to form a single, strong unit that is resistant to tearing. The plastic interlayer is often tinted to act as an ultraviolet filter. When laminated glass is broken, the broken pieces of glass remain bound to the internal tear-resistant plastic layer, and the broken sheet remains transparent. Thus, visibility remains good. Unlike traditional safety glass, laminated glass can be further processed—cut, drilled, and edge-worked, as necessary. A typical laminated windshield is very thin: each glass layer is approximately .03 inch (.76 millimeter) thick, while the plastic interlayer is approximately .098 inch (2.5 millimeters) thick.

    Assembly

    * 7 After laminating, the windshield is ready to be assembled with plastic moldings so it can be installed on the car. Known as glass encapsulation, this assembly process is usually done at the glass manufacturer. First, the peripheral section of the windshield is set in a predetermined position in a mold cavity. Next, molten plastic is injected into the mold; when it cools, it forms a plastic frame around the glass. The windshield assembly is then shipped to the car manufacturer, where it is installed in an automobile. The installation is done by direct glazing, a process that uses a polyurethane adhesive to bond the windshield and automobile body.

    Quality Control

    Process control includes testing of raw materials and monitoring such process variables as melting temperature, furnace atmosphere, and glass level. As the glass is formed, photoelectric devices are used to inspect for defects automatically. Other automatic devices have been developed to measure dimensions and radius of curvature after the windshield has been formed.

    Safety glass used in windshields must meet certain specifications regarding properties such as chemical durability, impact resistance, and strength. Standards have been developed by the American Society for Testing of Materials (ASTM) for measuring these properties. Specifications have also been developed for windshield performance by SAE International, an organization of automotive engineers."
    ur getting out of control with this shit bro chill out noone cares who invented lass ans wut it is made of

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  • mattdk318i
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    so you park your car on teh side of the road? Or is that where you took the pic. It also seems like the wipers were halfway up. Strange.....

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  • sticksdaman
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    Originally posted by GarrettM




    I walk out my house to leave and see this. Wow is all I have to say.


    definately a cro crop

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  • Brinkley
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    Originally posted by GarrettM




    I walk out my house to leave and see this. Wow is all I have to say.
    Basically the guy's saying he could do this by punching the guy's car. Thats bullshit.
    If you'd like to know something about what you're talking about try:
    eNotes.com has study guides, lesson plans, quizzes with a vibrant community of knowledgeable teachers and students to help you with almost any subject.

    "Glass windshields first appeared around 1905 with the invention of safety glass—glass tempered (tempering is a heat treatment) to make it especially hard and resistant to shattering. This type of windshield was popular well into the middle of the century, but it was eventually replaced by windshields made of laminated glass—a multilayer unit consisting of a plastic layer surrounded by two sheets of glass. In many countries, including the U.S., auto windshields are required by law to be made of laminated glass. Laminated glass can bend slightly under impact and is less likely to shatter than normal safety glass. This quality reduces the risk of injury to the automobile's passengers."
    "Raw Materials

    Glass is composed of numerous oxides that fuse and react together upon heating to form a glass. These include silica (SiO2), sodium oxide (Na2O), and calcium oxide (CaO). Raw materials from which these materials are derived are sand, soda ash (Na2CO3), and limestone (CaCO3). Soda ash acts as a flux; in other words, it lowers the melting point of the batch composition. Lime is added to the batch in order to improve the hardness and chemical durability of the glass. Glass used for windshields also usually contains several other oxides: potassium oxide (K2O derived from potash), magnesium oxide (MgO), and aluminum oxide (AI2O3 derived from feldspar).
    The Manufacturing Process

    * 1 The raw materials are carefully weighed in the appropriate amounts and mixed together with a small amount of water to prevent segregation of the ingredients. Cullet (broken waste glass) is also used as a raw material.
    * 2 Once the batch is made, it is fed to a large tank for melting using the float glass process. First, the batch is heated to a molten state, and then it is fed into a tank called the float chamber, which holds a bath of molten tin. The float chamber is very large—from about 13 feet to 26.25 feet (4 to 8 meters wide and up to almost 197 feet (60 meters) long; at its entrance, the temperature of the tin is about 1,835 degrees Fahrenheit (1,000 degrees Celsius), while at the exit the tin's temperature is slightly cooler—1,115 degrees Fahrenheit (600 degrees Celsius). In the float chamber, the glass doesn't submerge into the tin but floats on top of it, moving through the tank as though on a conveyor belt. The perfectly flat surface of the tin causes the molten glass also to become flat, while the high temperatures clean the glass of impurities. The decreased temperature at the exit of the chamber allows the glass to harden enough to move into the next chamber, a furnace.
    * 3 After the glass exits from the float chamber, rollers pick it up and feed it into a special furnace called a lehr. (If any solar coatings are desired, they are applied before the glass enters the lehr.) In this furnace, the glass is cooled gradually to about 395 degrees Fahrenheit (200 degrees Celsius); after the glass exits the lehr, it cools to room temperature. It is now very hard and strong and ready to be cut.

    Cutting and tempering

    * 4 The glass is cut into the desired dimensions using a diamond scribe—a tool with sharp metal points containing diamond dust. Diamond is used because it is harder than glass. The scribe marks a cut line into the glass, which is then broken or snapped at this line. This step is usually automated and is monitored by cameras and optoelectronic measuring systems. Next, the cut piece must be bent into shape. The sheet of glass is placed into a form or mold of metal or refractory material. The glass-filled mold is then heated in a furnace to the point where the glass sags to the shape of the mold.
    * 5 After this shaping step, the glass must be hardened in a heating step called tempering. First, the glass is quickly heated to about 1,565 degrees Fahrenheit (850 degrees Celsius), and then it is blasted with jets of cold air. Called quenching, this process toughens the glass by putting the outer surface into compression and the inside into tension. This allows the windshield, when damaged, to break into many small pieces of glass without sharp edges. The size of the pieces can also be changed by modifying the tempering procedure so that the windshield breaks into larger pieces, allowing good vision until the wind-shield can be replaced.

    Laminating

    * 6 After the glass is tempered and cleaned, it goes through a laminating process. In this process, two sheets of glass are bonded together with a layer of plastic (the plastic layer goes inside the two glass sheets). The lamination takes place in an autoclave, a special oven that uses both heat and pressure to form a single, strong unit that is resistant to tearing. The plastic interlayer is often tinted to act as an ultraviolet filter. When laminated glass is broken, the broken pieces of glass remain bound to the internal tear-resistant plastic layer, and the broken sheet remains transparent. Thus, visibility remains good. Unlike traditional safety glass, laminated glass can be further processed—cut, drilled, and edge-worked, as necessary. A typical laminated windshield is very thin: each glass layer is approximately .03 inch (.76 millimeter) thick, while the plastic interlayer is approximately .098 inch (2.5 millimeters) thick.

    Assembly

    * 7 After laminating, the windshield is ready to be assembled with plastic moldings so it can be installed on the car. Known as glass encapsulation, this assembly process is usually done at the glass manufacturer. First, the peripheral section of the windshield is set in a predetermined position in a mold cavity. Next, molten plastic is injected into the mold; when it cools, it forms a plastic frame around the glass. The windshield assembly is then shipped to the car manufacturer, where it is installed in an automobile. The installation is done by direct glazing, a process that uses a polyurethane adhesive to bond the windshield and automobile body.

    Quality Control

    Process control includes testing of raw materials and monitoring such process variables as melting temperature, furnace atmosphere, and glass level. As the glass is formed, photoelectric devices are used to inspect for defects automatically. Other automatic devices have been developed to measure dimensions and radius of curvature after the windshield has been formed.

    Safety glass used in windshields must meet certain specifications regarding properties such as chemical durability, impact resistance, and strength. Standards have been developed by the American Society for Testing of Materials (ASTM) for measuring these properties. Specifications have also been developed for windshield performance by SAE International, an organization of automotive engineers."

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  • Brinkley
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    Originally posted by imsotyerred
    shut the hell up. it's not that hard to break glass, let alone put an appendage through it. sure, it hurts like hell, but it's not impossible. get your head out of your ass
    I'll leave it there for as long as it annoys you. thanks.
    The guy's talking bs and he got called. Sucks.
    I have tried to break a windshield before. I was not stupid enough to try punching it. It was a 91 MR2, perhaps it was better made than the e30, I would believe him if he said he got it to crack and splinter and such but CLEAN through it NO.

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  • mrsleeve
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    My bet would have been bowling ball but since you didnt find 1 in the back seat or in the dash board I would have to go with the whole sledge thing.

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  • imsotyerred
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    Originally posted by Brinkley
    Ok I'll post pics of me performing superhuman stunts too. :) That's because I'm super badass. Only a video will do for this amount of BS
    shut the hell up. it's not that hard to break glass, let alone put an appendage through it. sure, it hurts like hell, but it's not impossible. get your head out of your ass

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  • mitch500
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    at least it a windshield they can be easily replaced. sucks tho;.

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  • mrsuburban
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    Windshield doesnt seem possible to punch through to me either. Isnt there a film in the center of the glass that holds it together? I threw a brick at a windshield it cracked but it all was together still. On the other hand I have punched out (they shatter) windows. Which even then was a bad idea because I was bleading all over the place.

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  • teamgtnfx01
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    Originally posted by atomic
    OH DAMN THATS TOTALED NOW !! PARTING IT OUT ? J/K


    Yeah I am with Linus as it looks like it was hit several times. Have you got a new gf that might have her ex pissed off at you by chance for stealing her from him? Because thats the kinda BS one would do if they were inmature for the reason of loosing their girl or HELL for whatever reason its still inmature and BULLSHIT !!!


    GOOD LUCK WITH THE FIX AND FINDING THE ASS WHO DID IT !!

    Dibs on the hard top

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  • Brinkley
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    Originally posted by erik325i
    Well Mr. Brinkley, the next time I go to the junkyard, I'll bring my camera with me so I can punch through another e30 windshield for you. (I don't have a video camera)

    It's not easy to do, but it is possible. I saw my little brother try it, and his hand just bounced off the windshield.

    -Erik
    Ok I'll post pics of me performing superhuman stunts too. :) That's because I'm super badass. Only a video will do for this amount of BS

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  • CAOSyAMOR
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    Originally posted by Brinkley
    The front windshield is designed to SHIELD occupants from road debris and other objects that would come through and cause injury. This is why it is called a windSHIELD. I would think this concept to be very basic. While it may be somewhat easy to crack and splinter, to full PUNCH right through it I just don't believe. Even in an Arnold movie. (Yes it did happen once, however, he was a Terminator AND he was after Sarah Conner) So, I will accept either a video of the window being punched through OR proof that you are a Cyberdyne Systems Model 101 or better T1000, TX, etc. Until then I call B.S. Sorry.
    haha, I remember watching the 'making of Terminator' years ago, and how they had a machine, hidden from camera view which Arnold had to match his actions with that of the machine because even Arnold knows that punching windshields is stoopid :hitler:

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